Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of you seem to be missing the point. Masks don't hurt children AND masks on unvaccinated children help keep the adults around them safe. If enough teachers get sick or die, or if enough teachers leave the job because they don't feel that their health is being considered, then children will in a much worse position than they are now. So make your choices wisely. Would you rather have your child in school wearing a mask, or would you rather your child not be in school and not wearing a mask? At least with the former, our children are learning. With the later? Not so much.
Before vaccines, sure. But if you think masking young kids is the difference-maker here, now that school-aged kids AND ADULTS have the opportunity to be vaccinated, you're woefully misinformed. And I'm not the anti-science, COVID-denier you think I am: DH and I are fully boosted and we vaccinated our kids as soon as we had the opportunity to. I wear high quality masks anytime I need to be indoors. Our kids mask at school (of course).
But, this idea that kids wearing crappy masks is the difference between teachers getting sick and dying is outrageous. Truly.
Sigh. Are all children vaccinated? Are even a majority of all children vaccinated? Come back when you can say YES to either of those. DP.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Exactly. And I won't be a "you're a bad parent" troll but you are certainly exuding all sorts of anxiety. You may want to think about that and 1) consider getting yourself some help, and 2) take some extra care to NOT model your unhealthy coping skills for your child. If she has anxiety, then she learned it from you. It is a learned behavior. Do better.
If you don't want to be a troll, don't be a troll. You literally just said, "I don't want to sound trollish..." and then proceeded to troll. YOU do better, you hag.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Exactly. And I won't be a "you're a bad parent" troll but you are certainly exuding all sorts of anxiety. You may want to think about that and 1) consider getting yourself some help, and 2) take some extra care to NOT model your unhealthy coping skills for your child. If she has anxiety, then she learned it from you. It is a learned behavior. Do better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Exactly. And I won't be a "you're a bad parent" troll but you are certainly exuding all sorts of anxiety. You may want to think about that and 1) consider getting yourself some help, and 2) take some extra care to NOT model your unhealthy coping skills for your child. If she has anxiety, then she learned it from you. It is a learned behavior. Do better.
If you don't want to be a troll, don't be a troll. You literally just said, "I don't want to sound trollish..." and then proceeded to troll. YOU do better, you hag.
Now it is obvious that you're an immature kid. Go do your homework.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of you seem to be missing the point. Masks don't hurt children AND masks on unvaccinated children help keep the adults around them safe. If enough teachers get sick or die, or if enough teachers leave the job because they don't feel that their health is being considered, then children will in a much worse position than they are now. So make your choices wisely. Would you rather have your child in school wearing a mask, or would you rather your child not be in school and not wearing a mask? At least with the former, our children are learning. With the later? Not so much.
Before vaccines, sure. But if you think masking young kids is the difference-maker here, now that school-aged kids AND ADULTS have the opportunity to be vaccinated, you're woefully misinformed. And I'm not the anti-science, COVID-denier you think I am: DH and I are fully boosted and we vaccinated our kids as soon as we had the opportunity to. I wear high quality masks anytime I need to be indoors. Our kids mask at school (of course).
But, this idea that kids wearing crappy masks is the difference between teachers getting sick and dying is outrageous. Truly.
Sigh. Are all children vaccinated? Are even a majority of all children vaccinated? Come back when you can say YES to either of those. DP.
In MoCo/MCPS where I live? Many of them are. Moreover, the VAST majority of ADULTS are vaccinated. Why is this all about kids being vaccinated? JFC. I am SO fed up with vaccinated, boosted adults wringing their hands over the horrors of children and COVID. Enough, already.
Sweetie, look it up in the dictionary. "Many" is not the same as "Most." Unvaccinated kids are a danger to vaccinated adults.
Lock 20 unvaccinated kids and 10 vaccinated kids into a room with 1 vaccinated and boosted adult (the teacher), and let's take bets on how long it will be before the vaccinated and boosted adult becomes sick.
Ooooooooh, you don't want to take that bet, do you? Well, neither do teachers. And I don't blame them.
When you're able to at least FAKE your concern about teachers, then teachers will, I hope, begin to be concerned about unmasking students. Until then, I fully support them in their efforts to keep kids masked.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Exactly. And I won't be a "you're a bad parent" troll but you are certainly exuding all sorts of anxiety. You may want to think about that and 1) consider getting yourself some help, and 2) take some extra care to NOT model your unhealthy coping skills for your child. If she has anxiety, then she learned it from you. It is a learned behavior. Do better.
If you don't want to be a troll, don't be a troll. You literally just said, "I don't want to sound trollish..." and then proceeded to troll. YOU do better, you hag.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of you seem to be missing the point. Masks don't hurt children AND masks on unvaccinated children help keep the adults around them safe. If enough teachers get sick or die, or if enough teachers leave the job because they don't feel that their health is being considered, then children will in a much worse position than they are now. So make your choices wisely. Would you rather have your child in school wearing a mask, or would you rather your child not be in school and not wearing a mask? At least with the former, our children are learning. With the later? Not so much.
Before vaccines, sure. But if you think masking young kids is the difference-maker here, now that school-aged kids AND ADULTS have the opportunity to be vaccinated, you're woefully misinformed. And I'm not the anti-science, COVID-denier you think I am: DH and I are fully boosted and we vaccinated our kids as soon as we had the opportunity to. I wear high quality masks anytime I need to be indoors. Our kids mask at school (of course).
But, this idea that kids wearing crappy masks is the difference between teachers getting sick and dying is outrageous. Truly.
Sigh. Are all children vaccinated? Are even a majority of all children vaccinated? Come back when you can say YES to either of those. DP.
In MoCo/MCPS where I live? Many of them are. Moreover, the VAST majority of ADULTS are vaccinated. Why is this all about kids being vaccinated? JFC. I am SO fed up with vaccinated, boosted adults wringing their hands over the horrors of children and COVID. Enough, already.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of you seem to be missing the point. Masks don't hurt children AND masks on unvaccinated children help keep the adults around them safe. If enough teachers get sick or die, or if enough teachers leave the job because they don't feel that their health is being considered, then children will in a much worse position than they are now. So make your choices wisely. Would you rather have your child in school wearing a mask, or would you rather your child not be in school and not wearing a mask? At least with the former, our children are learning. With the later? Not so much.
Before vaccines, sure. But if you think masking young kids is the difference-maker here, now that school-aged kids AND ADULTS have the opportunity to be vaccinated, you're woefully misinformed. And I'm not the anti-science, COVID-denier you think I am: DH and I are fully boosted and we vaccinated our kids as soon as we had the opportunity to. I wear high quality masks anytime I need to be indoors. Our kids mask at school (of course).
But, this idea that kids wearing crappy masks is the difference between teachers getting sick and dying is outrageous. Truly.
Sigh. Are all children vaccinated? Are even a majority of all children vaccinated? Come back when you can say YES to either of those. DP.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If we can keep everyone's attention on the fight against masks then they will not notice what's really going on.
Inflation, Afghanistan, the Ukraine, higher rents, health care disparity, crappy public school? That’s what is really going on. The failure of those promoting masks in areas where the benefits are minimal is just dumb. I fail to understand why, 2 years in, we continue to force an imperfect remediation measure on children for whom it has little to no benefit.
I will never get over why keeping schools closed or kids' activities restricted was more important than protecting those most at risk, including workers in factories, warehouses, grocery stores, restaurants, etc. throughout the pandemic. I'm pro-mask, but there is so much more that could have been done to keep low-wage and high-risk workers safer, including testing and providing free high-quality masks. Not only are we more concerned about restrictions on kids than we are protecting the vulnerable, but we use the poor COVID outcomes for the most vulnerable communities as continued justification for school restrictions.
+1 same
I was ok with the restrictions on kids (for the most part) when everything else was restricted too (especially pre vaccine). At this point, in my area and many others, the ONLY restrictions are on kids (and certain large events like concerts). We don’t even have a mask mandate anymore. The whole thing makes no sense to me.
I don't see a mask mandate as a restriction. What other kids restrictions are there?? Our school has some that are intended to protect the youngest children, who can't get vaccinated, but really there aren't many. Of course, we are now in private. But there are still not large events going on. I wish there were. It's not the govt, it's just that people don't feel comfortable.
OMG, well, kids are masked; have to sit apart from each other; get punished if their mask is below the nose; have weird rules about when they can pee, drink water, and do just about everything else that's normal; lunch is silent and only 10 minutes long, max; they get tested constantly; they are being told they are disease vectors, etc etc etc. I'm talking about my first-grader who now has anxiety about all of that, and therefore is having behavioral challenges and wants to avoid school. Simultaneously he can't hear the teachers half the time, and complains that he can't remember English letter sounds because he can't understand the teacher.
*cue the "you are a bad parent" etc etc etc trolls*
PP, other than the masks you just described a normal school day. If you never noticed how bad it was before now, then let me issue a belated welcome to public school.
Exactly. And I won't be a "you're a bad parent" troll but you are certainly exuding all sorts of anxiety. You may want to think about that and 1) consider getting yourself some help, and 2) take some extra care to NOT model your unhealthy coping skills for your child. If she has anxiety, then she learned it from you. It is a learned behavior. Do better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most of you seem to be missing the point. Masks don't hurt children AND masks on unvaccinated children help keep the adults around them safe. If enough teachers get sick or die, or if enough teachers leave the job because they don't feel that their health is being considered, then children will in a much worse position than they are now. So make your choices wisely. Would you rather have your child in school wearing a mask, or would you rather your child not be in school and not wearing a mask? At least with the former, our children are learning. With the later? Not so much.
Before vaccines, sure. But if you think masking young kids is the difference-maker here, now that school-aged kids AND ADULTS have the opportunity to be vaccinated, you're woefully misinformed. And I'm not the anti-science, COVID-denier you think I am: DH and I are fully boosted and we vaccinated our kids as soon as we had the opportunity to. I wear high quality masks anytime I need to be indoors. Our kids mask at school (of course).
But, this idea that kids wearing crappy masks is the difference between teachers getting sick and dying is outrageous. Truly.