Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And yes, I know he wouldn't ultimately be convicted. But it would keep the conflicts of interest and January 6th continually in the public eye. January 6th was the lowest point in American democracy since the Civil War and Trump wanted to turn the US into an autocratic dictatorship and a substantial number of members of Congress wanted to help him do it.
And the loonies have spent the last 18 months trying to purge the Republican party of those remaining members who DID do the right thing.
So here's the thing. You're basically suggesting using constitutional processes and the power of the government to further a political party's agenda. That is exactly what was happening in the prior administration. Let's just stop doing that. All of us, regardless of party.
So the Ds should just look the other way? Disregard corruption because it might benefit them?
Ridiculous given how the Rs have actually abused their powers for their own benefit and to support illegal behavior.
I'm not suggesting that nothing be done. I'm supportive of the 1/6 commission, and any prosecutions that result. I'm also supportive of everybody talking about it publicly, etc. What I am not in favor of doing is impeaching a justice "for show" and to create spectacle.
Anonymous wrote:I think my favourite text is when Ginni, the wife of a Supreme Court justice, was whining about 'the elites' in that tone deaf way that characterizes many right wingers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looking into this further, it looks like the decision that Thomas dissented in did NOT lead to the release of his wife's emails?
"This January, Clarence Thomas was the sole dissenter in a proceeding in which Trump asked the Court to stop the House investigative committee from obtaining records of his communications relating to efforts to subvert the 2020 election results. It is unclear whether Trump’s records would have implicated Ginni Thomas. Meadows filed an amicus brief in the case, in support of Trump’s claims of executive privilege, and at the time Meadows’s lawyers were arguing that his coöperation with congressional investigators depended on whether Trump would be ordered to comply himself. Yet, by that point, Meadows had already turned over to the congressional committee some twenty-three hundred texts—and, according to the Washington Post, they included the twenty-nine-message exchange between him and Ginni Thomas."
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/legal-scholars-are-shocked-by-ginni-thomass-stop-the-steal-texts
Replying here as well but don’t post the exact same stuff here and in the Clarence Thomas thread.
It’s weird because there was a period when Meadows was cooperating and then he wasn’t. Also during that period his PAC got a million dollar donation from Trump’s PAC. This is all in the big January 6 Commission thread months and months ago. It’s sort of irrelevant because if Meadows hadn’t started cooperating, the SCOTUS decision would have made the texts available to the 1/6 Commission whether they were in the “hey I’m cooperating” batch of evidence or not.
Anonymous wrote:It's just so appalling and egregious that this is happening - and there is literally no feasible mechanism for any accountability! Yeah sure impeachment - not going to happen.
So - too bad, so sad, just be flagrantly unethical and possibly corrupt in public, and enjoy your lifetime appointment.
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That's the lesson of the Trump presidency. As long as you don't admit any wrongdoing and don't resign, a republican can ride out anything no matter how corrupt, unethical or illegal. The right wing propaganda machine will protect you from any republican backlash and so long as republicans protect their own, there will be no actual consequences.
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this. every word of this is exactly correct.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just so appalling and egregious that this is happening - and there is literally no feasible mechanism for any accountability! Yeah sure impeachment - not going to happen.
So - too bad, so sad, just be flagrantly unethical and possibly corrupt in public, and enjoy your lifetime appointment.
That's the lesson of the Trump presidency. As long as you don't admit any wrongdoing and don't resign, a republican can ride out anything no matter how corrupt, unethical or illegal. The right wing propaganda machine will protect you from any republican backlash and so long as republicans protect their own, there will be no actual consequences.
this. every word of this is exactly correct.
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Look at the responses by Republicans on this thread. They’re doing their little part to hurry this process along. If Roberts had a lick of sense or a shred of honor, he’d ask Thomas to resign “for medical reasons.”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just so appalling and egregious that this is happening - and there is literally no feasible mechanism for any accountability! Yeah sure impeachment - not going to happen.
So - too bad, so sad, just be flagrantly unethical and possibly corrupt in public, and enjoy your lifetime appointment.
That's the lesson of the Trump presidency. As long as you don't admit any wrongdoing and don't resign, a republican can ride out anything no matter how corrupt, unethical or illegal. The right wing propaganda machine will protect you from any republican backlash and so long as republicans protect their own, there will be no actual consequences.
this. every word of this is exactly correct.
Anonymous wrote:Looking into this further, it looks like the decision that Thomas dissented in did NOT lead to the release of his wife's emails?
"This January, Clarence Thomas was the sole dissenter in a proceeding in which Trump asked the Court to stop the House investigative committee from obtaining records of his communications relating to efforts to subvert the 2020 election results. It is unclear whether Trump’s records would have implicated Ginni Thomas. Meadows filed an amicus brief in the case, in support of Trump’s claims of executive privilege, and at the time Meadows’s lawyers were arguing that his coöperation with congressional investigators depended on whether Trump would be ordered to comply himself. Yet, by that point, Meadows had already turned over to the congressional committee some twenty-three hundred texts—and, according to the Washington Post, they included the twenty-nine-message exchange between him and Ginni Thomas."
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/legal-scholars-are-shocked-by-ginni-thomass-stop-the-steal-texts