Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

What signature is being matched?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

What's to prevent me from showing up, saying I'm you, signing your name, and then voting?

Your signature wouldn't match the real signature on file. Duh.

Governor Youngkin's son tried this twice last fall and was busted twice. The system works.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/glenn-youngkins-underage-son-tried-to-vote-in-virginia-governors-election-officials-say/2870695/

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

What's to prevent me from showing up, saying I'm you, signing your name, and then voting?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.

Why didn't you do this all along?

Because she didn’t need it to get a license before she stopped driving.

But she was supposed to file the correct paperwork all along, regardless of her intent to drive/get a new driver's license.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.

Why didn't you do this all along?

Because she didn’t need it to get a license before she stopped driving.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

Delaware, Biden's home state, is currently more restrictive than what was passed in Georgia? It is faux outrage.

Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

WTH? There has been massive outrage.

No, we will call out the GOP chipping away at voting rights every time.

Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.