Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:49     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine who lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and Missouri, probably can't believe the DMV doesn't know how to handle a snowstorm.



He has lived here for eons. He knows we cannot handle snowstorms especially while it is still actively heavily snowing


I’m really surprised he left at 1pm in the middle of a snowstorm of a hellish drive. He should know better.


And all he had was an orange and Dr. Pepper.

Yeah, the lack of common sense is astounding.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:44     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Finland where my parents were posted. This sort of snowfall that happened yesterday in Virginia is a weekly occurrence there. Traffic doesn’t grind to a halt, roads get plowed, and something like this would be unheard of. The only thing that failed here is idiotic American drivers and their pathetically funded infrastructure system.

But hey, you pay almost nothing in taxes for the privilege of such failures. Enjoy being a laughingstock to the rest of the world. ‘Murcia! Wooo-hooo hee haw!


Indeed! And people continue to fight Biden on the need for infrastructure improvements.


Nobody fought Biden on real infrastructure improvements. It was Biden conflating infrastructure with daycare that caused all the problems.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:41     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:People love this frontier mindset - 'Ooh, it was a HELLISH SNOWSTORM, hellish consequences were inevitable!'

C'mon, it was an unusually heavy snowfall for couple of hours, with relatively mild, a few degrees below freezing temperatures. The sh*show aftermath really shouldn't be.


That section of 95 is way over it’s design capacity. It is almost always red on the traffic apps. Just one area near Occoquan is responsible for 1.2 million hours a year of delays. One accident will add 45 minutes delays. A snowstorm will cause a lot more accidents and traffic becomes stop and go. As the temperature dropped the road froze causing more accident and cars lost their traction.

A lot of people come on here and say oh in North Dakota we can drive in the snow. There are like 5 people on the road. Put 40,000 cars and trucks on the road and see what happens.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:41     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:For the idiots complaining abut pre-treating roads, it was raining late Sunday afternoon and evening. You can't pre-treat roads if it is raining.


+1

Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:32     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Finland where my parents were posted. This sort of snowfall that happened yesterday in Virginia is a weekly occurrence there. Traffic doesn’t grind to a halt, roads get plowed, and something like this would be unheard of. The only thing that failed here is idiotic American drivers and their pathetically funded infrastructure system.

But hey, you pay almost nothing in taxes for the privilege of such failures. Enjoy being a laughingstock to the rest of the world. ‘Murcia! Wooo-hooo hee haw!


Indeed! And people continue to fight Biden on the need for infrastructure improvements.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:30     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

For the idiots complaining abut pre-treating roads, it was raining late Sunday afternoon and evening. You cankt pre-treat roads if it is raining.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:17     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

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Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine who lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and Missouri, probably can't believe the DMV doesn't know how to handle a snowstorm.



He has lived here for eons. He knows we cannot handle snowstorms especially while it is still actively heavily snowing


I’m really surprised he left at 1pm in the middle of a snowstorm of a hellish drive. He should know better.


Especially when there is Amtrak between Richmond and Union Station.

You think Amtrak wasn’t affected by this? Cute.

https://localnews8.com/news/2022/01/05/amtrak-passengers-endured-a-30-hour-delay-in-virginia-after-fallen-trees-blocked-the-track-during-winter-storm-4/

Wouldn't have impacted Richmond to Union Station, but still.


It sure did impact RIC to DC. I had to take in two friends who had gotten stuck on a North East Regional that left Richmond at 8am Monday and didn’t make it to Union Station until 6am Tuesday. The crew abandoned the train at Quantico but none of the passengers could get off because it was a military base. When they got in at Union Station Tuesday morning the rest of the route was cancelled and everyone off loaded. It wasn’t clear to my friends if the problem was snow or trees but the ran out of food and water in the dining car, toilet paper in the bathrooms and very little info was given out. My friends are trying to get to CT and we are hoping they can get a train out of here this afternoon.

+1 My nephew is finally on a train to Savannah after days of delays and cancellations and Amtrak is short-staffed with no information.


Make sure he has food. Amtrak runs out of food all the time. Bring a few packs of freeze dried food or ramen. You can usually get hot water.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:15     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

People love this frontier mindset - 'Ooh, it was a HELLISH SNOWSTORM, hellish consequences were inevitable!'

C'mon, it was an unusually heavy snowfall for couple of hours, with relatively mild, a few degrees below freezing temperatures. The sh*show aftermath really shouldn't be.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:10     Subject: Re:I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:I'm so glad we had no reason to be driving in that mess. That said - that stretch of highway is always terrible with traffic. I hope this possible gives it some attention and maybe they can do something for the better? Although I am not sure what would alleviate the traffic that's always there.


Hindsight being 20/20 I suppose they could have run multi track, subsidized express rail/metro rail right up the middle of 95, branching off at 495 into Tysons, and Crystal City (with commuter lots at termination points in the burbs), instead of hot lanes, and the Silver line to Dulles??? I have that thought about a lot of the clogged straight shot highways around here, like 66. I think we would all be in much better shape if there was a willingness and demand for cheaper/faster alternatives to sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic.

We are talking about 15 to 20-mile commutes that take over an hour by car because there is no faster/cheaper or even comparable alternative.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:08     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine who lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and Missouri, probably can't believe the DMV doesn't know how to handle a snowstorm.



He has lived here for eons. He knows we cannot handle snowstorms especially while it is still actively heavily snowing


I’m really surprised he left at 1pm in the middle of a snowstorm of a hellish drive. He should know better.


Especially when there is Amtrak between Richmond and Union Station.

You think Amtrak wasn’t affected by this? Cute.

https://localnews8.com/news/2022/01/05/amtrak-passengers-endured-a-30-hour-delay-in-virginia-after-fallen-trees-blocked-the-track-during-winter-storm-4/

Wouldn't have impacted Richmond to Union Station, but still.


It sure did impact RIC to DC. I had to take in two friends who had gotten stuck on a North East Regional that left Richmond at 8am Monday and didn’t make it to Union Station until 6am Tuesday. The crew abandoned the train at Quantico but none of the passengers could get off because it was a military base. When they got in at Union Station Tuesday morning the rest of the route was cancelled and everyone off loaded. It wasn’t clear to my friends if the problem was snow or trees but the ran out of food and water in the dining car, toilet paper in the bathrooms and very little info was given out. My friends are trying to get to CT and we are hoping they can get a train out of here this afternoon.

Yikes https://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/terrifying-says-passenger-stranded-amtrak-020413449.html
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:05     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine who lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and Missouri, probably can't believe the DMV doesn't know how to handle a snowstorm.



He has lived here for eons. He knows we cannot handle snowstorms especially while it is still actively heavily snowing


I’m really surprised he left at 1pm in the middle of a snowstorm of a hellish drive. He should know better.


Especially when there is Amtrak between Richmond and Union Station.

You think Amtrak wasn’t affected by this? Cute.

https://localnews8.com/news/2022/01/05/amtrak-passengers-endured-a-30-hour-delay-in-virginia-after-fallen-trees-blocked-the-track-during-winter-storm-4/

Wouldn't have impacted Richmond to Union Station, but still.


It sure did impact RIC to DC. I had to take in two friends who had gotten stuck on a North East Regional that left Richmond at 8am Monday and didn’t make it to Union Station until 6am Tuesday. The crew abandoned the train at Quantico but none of the passengers could get off because it was a military base. When they got in at Union Station Tuesday morning the rest of the route was cancelled and everyone off loaded. It wasn’t clear to my friends if the problem was snow or trees but the ran out of food and water in the dining car, toilet paper in the bathrooms and very little info was given out. My friends are trying to get to CT and we are hoping they can get a train out of here this afternoon.

+1 My nephew is finally on a train to Savannah after days of delays and cancellations and Amtrak is short-staffed with no information.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 11:03     Subject: Re:I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

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I love this.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 10:58     Subject: Re:I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

I'm so glad we had no reason to be driving in that mess. That said - that stretch of highway is always terrible with traffic. I hope this possible gives it some attention and maybe they can do something for the better? Although I am not sure what would alleviate the traffic that's always there.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 10:57     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tim Kaine who lived in St. Paul, Minnesota and Missouri, probably can't believe the DMV doesn't know how to handle a snowstorm.



He has lived here for eons. He knows we cannot handle snowstorms especially while it is still actively heavily snowing


I’m really surprised he left at 1pm in the middle of a snowstorm of a hellish drive. He should know better.


Especially when there is Amtrak between Richmond and Union Station.

You think Amtrak wasn’t affected by this? Cute.

https://localnews8.com/news/2022/01/05/amtrak-passengers-endured-a-30-hour-delay-in-virginia-after-fallen-trees-blocked-the-track-during-winter-storm-4/

Wouldn't have impacted Richmond to Union Station, but still.


It sure did impact RIC to DC. I had to take in two friends who had gotten stuck on a North East Regional that left Richmond at 8am Monday and didn’t make it to Union Station until 6am Tuesday. The crew abandoned the train at Quantico but none of the passengers could get off because it was a military base. When they got in at Union Station Tuesday morning the rest of the route was cancelled and everyone off loaded. It wasn’t clear to my friends if the problem was snow or trees but the ran out of food and water in the dining car, toilet paper in the bathrooms and very little info was given out. My friends are trying to get to CT and we are hoping they can get a train out of here this afternoon.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2022 10:50     Subject: I95 Richmond to the Beltway people suck in cars for 17 plus hours

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Anonymous wrote:Hope no one was in a Tesla.


No kidding. As someone on Twitter said, the only reason this was not a mass casualty event is because they were driving gas powered vehicles.


I dunno— EVs usually do very well conserving battery in stop and go, and often have heated seats. I’ve never seen an analysis of how long they could keep a car comfortable in below freezing temps but I wouldn’t assume they are dramatically worse than a gas vehicle.


+1

Assuming you didn’t start with a low charge (or low fuel tank) you’d be fine. No worse than gas car.

I think they can go days to just heat the cabin.