Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:47     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


Oh - that's funny. You really do think random anonymous people are part of political organizations.

So dumb...no wonder you voted for Youngkin.


DP. Are you the imbecile who insists over on Website Feedback that "paid people" are posting conservative opinions on DCUM? Now that IS funny.

Astro-turfing is a thing PP. Whether it's happened in DCUM, no on can say. You do have posters who sound very, very similar. Like same talking points, same catch phrases/adjectives, same responses to any criticism (e.g., like calling people imbeciles). I don't think they are paid Russians, just bored ass housewives who are on this website too often trying to stir stuff up
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:13     Subject: Re:Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More nutters in the group:

Lindsey Burke - wants to defund public schools with a voucher plan similar to WV
https://www.heritage.org/staff/lindsey-burke
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/virginia-election-outcome-was-about-education-here-are-4-actions-youngkin

Kay James - mega conservative/religious and also wants school choice
https://www.heritage.org/staff/kay-c-james
https://www.heritage.org/press/gov-elect-youngkin-appoints-heritage-foundations-kay-james-co-chairman-transition

All of the wealthy parents will use vouchers to subsidize their private education. It will do little to support lower-income students. So the rich kids will be off to privates/religious schools while the poor kids are left behind in schools with significantly less funding. It will be a death spiral for public schools.

And Nate Bailey was DeVos’ freakin’ chief of staff.
https://conferences.shrm.org/presenter/nate-bailey


This is what the Youngkin voters support - DeVos-style religious nut jobs who want to implement vouchers. If you look at how that’s played out in Michigan, Indiana, etc - that is bad news for public schools. Good news for private schools.

The question is - is that what you really wanted?


No answer on this yet...


Do we want school choice? Absolutely. How dumb are you that you have to even ask the question? That's a huge reason we voted for Youngkin.
DP


I'm sure you will end up with very quality schools in Nova given the amounts that you will be able to get from vouchers. I'm sure that a per pupil funding rate that is less than half of parochial school and tied to a requirement to take everyone will lead to amazing schools.


Yup. Just think of all of those people who moved to FC for "the amazing schools".

Schools are going to tank. Followed by property values.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:08     Subject: Re:Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More nutters in the group:

Lindsey Burke - wants to defund public schools with a voucher plan similar to WV
https://www.heritage.org/staff/lindsey-burke
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/virginia-election-outcome-was-about-education-here-are-4-actions-youngkin

Kay James - mega conservative/religious and also wants school choice
https://www.heritage.org/staff/kay-c-james
https://www.heritage.org/press/gov-elect-youngkin-appoints-heritage-foundations-kay-james-co-chairman-transition

All of the wealthy parents will use vouchers to subsidize their private education. It will do little to support lower-income students. So the rich kids will be off to privates/religious schools while the poor kids are left behind in schools with significantly less funding. It will be a death spiral for public schools.

And Nate Bailey was DeVos’ freakin’ chief of staff.
https://conferences.shrm.org/presenter/nate-bailey


This is what the Youngkin voters support - DeVos-style religious nut jobs who want to implement vouchers. If you look at how that’s played out in Michigan, Indiana, etc - that is bad news for public schools. Good news for private schools.

The question is - is that what you really wanted?


No answer on this yet...


Do we want school choice? Absolutely. How dumb are you that you have to even ask the question? That's a huge reason we voted for Youngkin.
DP


Yes, we know that the GOP wants to defund public schools to subsidize private school for their kids. They DGAF if they drive public schools into the ground.

The question is do the "first time R voters" realize that is what they supported by voting for Youngkin?
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:05     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:Inclusive schools that are welcoming to all students allow all students to learn better.


Sure, that's why the Big 3 have such amazing SN programs and such a high portion of students living in poverty.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:04     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


+1
Gaslighting is their forte. They actually excel at one thing.



Oh look. Another person who isn't familiar with the interwebs.

Plenty of people saw parents throwing tantrums last year. And then voting irrationally in November.



Yes - plenty of Democrats threw tantrums when people wouldn't comply with their wishes - and still continue to do so. And not voting the way you insist =/= "voting irrationally." You are not somehow "rational" while those with a different POV are "irrational." Sorry to disappoint.


"Comply with their wishes"? WTF are you talking about?

People voting GOP "for the first time" just because they were mad at schools and "wanted to send a message" were irrational.

People voting GOP because they support the GOP platform (vouchers) just means they are run-of the-mill GOP losers.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 13:01     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Inclusive schools that are welcoming to all students allow all students to learn better.
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2021 12:57     Subject: Re:Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More nutters in the group:

Lindsey Burke - wants to defund public schools with a voucher plan similar to WV
https://www.heritage.org/staff/lindsey-burke
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/virginia-election-outcome-was-about-education-here-are-4-actions-youngkin

Kay James - mega conservative/religious and also wants school choice
https://www.heritage.org/staff/kay-c-james
https://www.heritage.org/press/gov-elect-youngkin-appoints-heritage-foundations-kay-james-co-chairman-transition

All of the wealthy parents will use vouchers to subsidize their private education. It will do little to support lower-income students. So the rich kids will be off to privates/religious schools while the poor kids are left behind in schools with significantly less funding. It will be a death spiral for public schools.

And Nate Bailey was DeVos’ freakin’ chief of staff.
https://conferences.shrm.org/presenter/nate-bailey


This is what the Youngkin voters support - DeVos-style religious nut jobs who want to implement vouchers. If you look at how that’s played out in Michigan, Indiana, etc - that is bad news for public schools. Good news for private schools.

The question is - is that what you really wanted?


No answer on this yet...


Do we want school choice? Absolutely. How dumb are you that you have to even ask the question? That's a huge reason we voted for Youngkin.
DP


I'm sure you will end up with very quality schools in Nova given the amounts that you will be able to get from vouchers. I'm sure that a per pupil funding rate that is less than half of parochial school and tied to a requirement to take everyone will lead to amazing schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 21:45     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just search "anti bias racism" for a treasure trove of board docs.


LOL. Still running with that, huh?

Anti-bias training for teachers? The same training that every corporate employee has had in the last 15 years? Yeah - that's really out there.




I'm sorry you're so dense that you need this spelled out for you. This isn't just "anti-bias training" for teachers. It's a reframing of curriculum so that all subjects are seen through an "anti-bias" lens. If you had actually read the original link you would know this. Or maybe not, since your intelligence is questionable, at best.

https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BTFRCZ6CA62E/$file/Final%20Anti-Racism%20Anti-Bias%20Curriculum%20Work%20Session%20Sept%2014%202020.pdf
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 21:40     Subject: Re:Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More nutters in the group:

Lindsey Burke - wants to defund public schools with a voucher plan similar to WV
https://www.heritage.org/staff/lindsey-burke
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/virginia-election-outcome-was-about-education-here-are-4-actions-youngkin

Kay James - mega conservative/religious and also wants school choice
https://www.heritage.org/staff/kay-c-james
https://www.heritage.org/press/gov-elect-youngkin-appoints-heritage-foundations-kay-james-co-chairman-transition

All of the wealthy parents will use vouchers to subsidize their private education. It will do little to support lower-income students. So the rich kids will be off to privates/religious schools while the poor kids are left behind in schools with significantly less funding. It will be a death spiral for public schools.

And Nate Bailey was DeVos’ freakin’ chief of staff.
https://conferences.shrm.org/presenter/nate-bailey


This is what the Youngkin voters support - DeVos-style religious nut jobs who want to implement vouchers. If you look at how that’s played out in Michigan, Indiana, etc - that is bad news for public schools. Good news for private schools.

The question is - is that what you really wanted?


No answer on this yet...


Do we want school choice? Absolutely. How dumb are you that you have to even ask the question? That's a huge reason we voted for Youngkin.
DP
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 21:39     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


+1
Gaslighting is their forte. They actually excel at one thing.



Oh look. Another person who isn't familiar with the interwebs.

Plenty of people saw parents throwing tantrums last year. And then voting irrationally in November.



Yes - plenty of Democrats threw tantrums when people wouldn't comply with their wishes - and still continue to do so. And not voting the way you insist =/= "voting irrationally." You are not somehow "rational" while those with a different POV are "irrational." Sorry to disappoint.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 18:35     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:Linking a presentation for one work session does not mean FCPS focused “more on social issues than actual education.”

More evidence of the reading and critical thinking skills of Youngkin voters.


I voted for McA but I actually watched the school board meetings. They were renaming schools when kids did not have the option of in person school. You don’t have to look any further than that for proof.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 18:09     Subject: Re:Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More nutters in the group:

Lindsey Burke - wants to defund public schools with a voucher plan similar to WV
https://www.heritage.org/staff/lindsey-burke
https://www.heritage.org/education/commentary/virginia-election-outcome-was-about-education-here-are-4-actions-youngkin

Kay James - mega conservative/religious and also wants school choice
https://www.heritage.org/staff/kay-c-james
https://www.heritage.org/press/gov-elect-youngkin-appoints-heritage-foundations-kay-james-co-chairman-transition

All of the wealthy parents will use vouchers to subsidize their private education. It will do little to support lower-income students. So the rich kids will be off to privates/religious schools while the poor kids are left behind in schools with significantly less funding. It will be a death spiral for public schools.

And Nate Bailey was DeVos’ freakin’ chief of staff.
https://conferences.shrm.org/presenter/nate-bailey


This is what the Youngkin voters support - DeVos-style religious nut jobs who want to implement vouchers. If you look at how that’s played out in Michigan, Indiana, etc - that is bad news for public schools. Good news for private schools.

The question is - is that what you really wanted?


No answer on this yet...
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 18:08     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


Oh - that's funny. You really do think random anonymous people are part of political organizations.

So dumb...no wonder you voted for Youngkin.


DP. Are you the imbecile who insists over on Website Feedback that "paid people" are posting conservative opinions on DCUM? Now that IS funny.


Nope. This might blow your mind but there are lots of people who post on DCUM. Feel free to ask Jeff if you don't believe me.

Guess it's not surprising that the Youngkin voters are dumb AF.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 18:05     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


+1
Gaslighting is their forte. They actually excel at one thing.



Oh look. Another person who isn't familiar with the interwebs.

Plenty of people saw parents throwing tantrums last year. And then voting irrationally in November.

Anonymous
Post 12/05/2021 18:02     Subject: Former FCPS School Board Member Elizabeth Schultz on Youngkin's Education Transition Team

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ certainly not within 2-3 generations


I imagine you are product of these find public schools. Unprecedented doesn't mean the last two or three generations.




The covid pandemic was unprecedented in terms of scale.

In 1918-19, this area was mostly rural farmland. It wasn’t affected like urban areas of the time.

Our schools boards have never dealt with something like this before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then they acted irrationally.


So you can't learn anything from history, because this area was farmlands? That's your argument? Urban areas aren't a uniquely modern invention of the last 10 years.



Like I said...our schools boards have never dealt with something like this on this scale before. And they were cautious. So some parents got angry. And then those parents acted irrationally.


As long as the FCDC and its proxies keep claiming that parents acted "irrationally," Democrats will keep losing contests in Virginia. I'd expect a big turnover on the FCPS School Board in 2023. The current members are widely despised for their incompetence and hypocrisy.

Interestingly, the more progressive Democrats have wasted little time in savaging McAuliffe for the campaign he ran. At least they admit their candidate was terrible, even if their solution - to nominate candidates further to the left - may not prove successful. The School Board proxies in the Democratic ranks, on the other hand, just keep burying their heads further into the sand.


LOL. You equate random anonymous posters on the interwebs with... elected officials or political organizations?

I'm starting to understand the "reasoning" that would lead someone to vote for Youngkin.


You're going to have to get much better at gaslighting. Pretending the FCDC proxies who post their opinions (and FCDC propaganda) constantly on Twitter don't also post on sites like DCUM is asking too much.


Oh - that's funny. You really do think random anonymous people are part of political organizations.

So dumb...no wonder you voted for Youngkin.


DP. Are you the imbecile who insists over on Website Feedback that "paid people" are posting conservative opinions on DCUM? Now that IS funny.