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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

I'm sorry.. are community engagement officers the same as security guards?

No dumbass, schools already have security guards, they don't need police officers.

So, then why do the Principals, who are in the schools everyday, working with the kids, want the SROs? Do you work in the schools? Do you interact with the students everyday?

Basically you believe the principals over the students and the data. I believe the students and the data. The principals are part of a system that consistently fails students of color so I'm not too inclined to believe them.

I believe the Principals are the adults in charge of the school, and they are the ones who deal with students everyday. Not you.

I also believe that some kids need more discipline and adult figures to bring that discipline because clearly some kids are running wild, wielding knives and stabbing people. If a student of color tried to stab you or your kid with a knife will you call the cops? There are some bad apples in the bunch.. including students of color. I guess you also support a student who rapes another kid from being passed from one school to another. Or do you only support that if the student is a POC, but if the student is not a POC, then they should be in prison?

Again, do you work in the schools? Do you interact with these kids everyday?

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Basically you believe the principals over the students and the data. I believe the students and the data. The principals are part of a system that consistently fails students of color so I'm not too inclined to believe them.

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

I'm sorry.. are community engagement officers the same as security guards?

No dumbass, schools already have security guards, they don't need police officers.

So, then why do the Principals, who are in the schools everyday, working with the kids, want the SROs? Do you work in the schools? Do you interact with the students everyday?

Basically you believe the principals over the students and the data. I believe the students and the data. The principals are part of a system that consistently fails students of color so I'm not too inclined to believe them.

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

I'm sorry.. are community engagement officers the same as security guards?

No dumbass, schools already have security guards, they don't need police officers.

So, then why do the Principals, who are in the schools everyday, working with the kids, want the SROs? Do you work in the schools? Do you interact with the students everyday?

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so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

What race were the cops who yelled at the 5 year old? They acted with the power of the state. Does that mean all people of that race are bad?

They were Black, as was the child. This is not a statement about Black folks so much as about what happens when a certain professional group is allowed to act with absolute impunity. The salient issue here is the fact that he was a cop, and that his badge meant that even a horrific video that was absolutely abusive resulted in zero professional or personal consequences.

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

NP here. Please show me that data that SROs dont deter violence.

OMG do you need me to google it for you? Are you really this stupid?

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so, along those lines, if one black kid did something bad to your kid will you make sure your kid never interacts with a black kid?

I dunno. Did that one black kid act with the power of the state? Were they paid with my tax dollars to hurt my kid? Were they trusted with securing the peace, and given all of the rights and responsibilities of such?

wait.. so you are mad because a few cops who are paid for by your tax dollars did something bad, so the whole batch must be thrown out?

Again, who are you going to call when someone is breaking into your home. Even better... if someone was hurting your child, would you call the cops or not because, you know.. one bad apple ruined the whole bunch?

No, I'm mad because a few cops paid by my tax dollars did something bad and then the entire police apparatus swung into action to ensure they did not face consequences.

OK, so are you going to call the police if someone is hurting you and your kid or not?

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

I don’t think we can have a rational conversation when you think yelling at a 5 year old is considered police brutality. I have a higher bar than that.

JFC you thought that was okay? You're right, we can't have a rational conversation.

Never said it was ok. I don’t think it qualifies as police brutality.

So it's like, not that bad, let's just all move on and let Officer Friendly go about their business without any consequences, I'm sure if something really bad happened they'd be disciplined but this wasn't police brutality so it's okay.

In the grand scheme of things, I'd rather live with one cop who yelled at a 5 yr old than a bunch of students being stabbed, and the nearest cop being miles away.

SROs are deterrents. That's why stores hire security guards; that's why people put up security cameras, ring cameras, have guard dogs; turn on lights in the house when they leave on vacation, not leave trash bin sitting out for a week... all deterents to prevent crime.

That's why SCHOOLS hire security guards. The data on police in schools does not support your assertion that they deter violence. You can keep repeating your claim all you want until you are blue in the face, that does not make it true.

I'm sorry.. are community engagement officers the same as security guards?

No dumbass, schools already have security guards, they don't need police officers.

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There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause.

There is no police brutality because no police have been charged with brutality is not the convincing argument you think it is.

What about the MCP who got caught on camera screaming in the face of a 5 year-old last year? Do they not count because they weren't SROs? They also were not charged, because it is basically impossible to charge police, nor were they disciplined.

oh so one bad apple means we should get rid of them all? I knew you were going to bring up this strawman argument. Gosh, I could say the same thing about certain groups because of one bad incident.

Next time your kid needs a cop to help them, make sure you tell them not to call the cop because they are all bad. See how that works?

Um yeah if a company is selling apples and some of them are poisonous and they don't try to get rid of the poisonous apples then hell no I am not eating any of those apples.

And I am sure as f^ck not giving any of those apples to my children.

right .. so if someone is trying to hurt you, break into your house or your car, you are not going to call the cops? Are you going to call the community engagement officer LOL

Yes, if I have to, I will call the cops, but I don't want them living in my home, I don't want my HOA to hire a police officer to work in my neighborhood specifically, I want as little contact with them as possible because there is no accountability when they do something wrong. The fact that they're all I've got if I'm the victim of a crime is sad and unfortunate.