Anonymous wrote:I work in finance for a company. We have reporting requirements at the end of every quarter. No one in our department takes off at the end of a quarter and in fact we work extra hours. We don’t whine or stomp our feet or tell our bosses “it’s our leave and we’ll do what we want!” We have 40+ other weeks a year we can take off. This isn’t that hard people.

That's nice. Irrelevant, but nice.

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We all know that’s in place to prevent people from doing things like taking a month off. Some of my colleagues have 220+ days banked and could technically “take off” an entire year with those days. A one off personal day isn’t going to get denied and if it does guess what, you just wake up sick and call in. You’re all so weird with this “well I let my employer dictate every single thing I do and I would never ever inconvenience my job.” It’s a JOB. It doesn’t care about you or love you back or honor any single sacrifice you make. Take a day. I swear those schools and offices will still function.

Do you work for LCPS? Because teachers and school staff get just 3 personal days per year. If they go unused, they roll over to sick leave, so the next year you again have just three personal days. So you can't just take a month off. You can't take more than three sick days without a doctor's note. And yes, a single personal day CAN be denied if coverage is not expected to be found.

I used to think the rules and regulations around leave made no sense, but I see their wisdom in light of comments like this. Some jobs are more flexible with when you take your leave. Many--like teaching and medical care--are understandably less flexible, as there is a minimum number of staff who must be present to get the job done. I 100% support us using the leave we are allotted and taking care of ourselves and our families, but we can't all take the same two days and say "well, I hope someone else shows up to teach the kids."

Yes I do. And to be clear , I didn’t take off for 11/3 or 11/5. I didn’t take off a single day last year so as not to burden my colleagues and I should have. I don’t blame any teacher for taking their days off just like I don’t blame any other employee. Those are your days. If someone takes one, we figure it out. The issue is there’s no subs who want those days either. And the bus drivers would call out. And we simply don’t have enough. Like every other industry in the country we have a shortage of employees . It is is what it is. Feel free to apply to sub or drive a bus because that is truly the only solution here. Not banning all employees from ever taking a day.

Stop with the hysteria. No one is banning anyone from “ever taking a day.” It’s certain days, and tons of industries ban employees from taking leave on certain days. Enough with the fake persecution.

People are literally calling teachers lazy and entitled for taking days. I’m not hysterical, I’m explaining to you workers have rights. Even you! Those are benefits of your job.

Still wrong. “Workers” in many many industries cannot just take any day off they like because it’s “their leave” and they can “use it whenever they want to.” It doesn’t work like that. Grow up.

Teachers can and will and if it's "denied," will just use sick leave.

Grow up.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah - nurses and doctors deal with this all the time, as do retail and restaurant workers. They are absolutely 100% told they cannot take certain days off, or there is a rotation of who had the time off in a precious year, etc.

My Jewish uncle doctor works every Christmas in the hospital in exchange for being allowed to have off Thanksgiving. My ER nurse friend is assigned two random weeks in the summer and if she doesn’t like them she has to trade with someone. Most retailers require you to work Black Friday or be terminated.

Once again, teachers think they deserve special treatment.

Once again, entitled parents think they can dictate the terms of teachers' employment. Luckily, they're wrong.

Anonymous wrote:Predictions: Monday and Tuesday of thanksgiving week become asynchronous and next year is even worse as teachers survey the damage of this year.

That is both frightening and probably scarily accurate.

Anonymous wrote:Predictions: Monday and Tuesday of thanksgiving week become asynchronous and next year is even worse as teachers survey the damage of this year.

I’m a teacher and I have bad news for you. School will continue to get worse each year. In a desperate attempt to pretend the ramifications of a pandemic are fixable , schools are doubling down on everything that made schools inequitable to begin with. All this BS about “we can’t return to normal, we have the chance to reinvent” was exactly that - BS. School will never be what it was pre Covid because every year we will get more and more crap put on our plates. More testing. More focus on grades. More discipline. Less humanity. I am at such a loss about it all. I know very well how much trouble and strife this is causing some od the best, most experienced teachers in my building. You know the ones who don’t care and are doing just fine? The crappy ones. I am very concerned public school as we knew it is over and it will continue in a downhill trajectory that doesn’t serve kids or families but simply feeds the bureaucracy itself.

Predictions: Monday and Tuesday of thanksgiving week become asynchronous and next year is even worse as teachers survey the damage of this year.

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Anonymous wrote:This post is bonkers. Teachers are allowed days off like anyone else. I have zero problem with them requesting days off that week. However, admin should have ensured proper coverage before granting the days. I think this is a poor management issue, not an employee issue. If they didn't figure out they wouldn't have coverage before they granted the days they should have cancelled leave by senority or request date.

As far as sick days..I dont know any professional job that requires documentation of sick days unless you are out 3 days or more.

They had to squeeze Diwali in so they can proclaim the woke, equity and inclusive badge… that’s what you get.

Now, back to blaming teachers for everything.

While you’re at it I’m planning my break.

DP. I dont see where the PP blames teachers. In fact, I see the exact opposite. They are laying the blame on the administration, which is absolutely correct.
You are far too defensive and nasty about this and seem to have zero understanding or empathy for parents who now have to plan for 2 additional days at home for children with short notice.
I fully expect the same to happen Thanksgiving week. Would be nice for LCPS to just admit that now.

Yes! I didn't blame teachers at all. I just think admin needs to be better at managing staff.

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Anonymous wrote:This post is bonkers. Teachers are allowed days off like anyone else. I have zero problem with them requesting days off that week. However, admin should have ensured proper coverage before granting the days. I think this is a poor management issue, not an employee issue. If they didn't figure out they wouldn't have coverage before they granted the days they should have cancelled leave by senority or request date.

As far as sick days..I dont know any professional job that requires documentation of sick days unless you are out 3 days or more.

They had to squeeze Diwali in so they can proclaim the woke, equity and inclusive badge… that’s what you get.

Now, back to blaming teachers for everything.

While you’re at it I’m planning my break.

DP. I dont see where the PP blames teachers. In fact, I see the exact opposite. They are laying the blame on the administration, which is absolutely correct.
You are far too defensive and nasty about this and seem to have zero understanding or empathy for parents who now have to plan for 2 additional days at home for children with short notice.
I fully expect the same to happen Thanksgiving week. Would be nice for LCPS to just admit that now.

I don’t think so. Im a teacher and they will definitely have trouble staffing it because they always do even in normal years. Subs don’t pick up those days. What they’ll do I think is split and parcel out kids to other grade level classes in elementary and in secondary, if a teacher is out and there’s no coverage, kids will go to the auditorium for that block and do work left on Schoology . Which isn’t ideal but realistically isn’t much different than what goes on when they’re in a room with a sub who is just monitoring.

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Anonymous wrote:This post is bonkers. Teachers are allowed days off like anyone else. I have zero problem with them requesting days off that week. However, admin should have ensured proper coverage before granting the days. I think this is a poor management issue, not an employee issue. If they didn't figure out they wouldn't have coverage before they granted the days they should have cancelled leave by senority or request date.

As far as sick days..I dont know any professional job that requires documentation of sick days unless you are out 3 days or more.

They had to squeeze Diwali in so they can proclaim the woke, equity and inclusive badge… that’s what you get.

Now, back to blaming teachers for everything.

While you’re at it I’m planning my break.

DP. I dont see where the PP blames teachers. In fact, I see the exact opposite. They are laying the blame on the administration, which is absolutely correct.
You are far too defensive and nasty about this and seem to have zero understanding or empathy for parents who now have to plan for 2 additional days at home for children with short notice.
I fully expect the same to happen Thanksgiving week. Would be nice for LCPS to just admit that now.

Anonymous wrote:This post is bonkers. Teachers are allowed days off like anyone else. I have zero problem with them requesting days off that week. However, admin should have ensured proper coverage before granting the days. I think this is a poor management issue, not an employee issue. If they didn't figure out they wouldn't have coverage before they granted the days they should have cancelled leave by senority or request date.

As far as sick days..I dont know any professional job that requires documentation of sick days unless you are out 3 days or more.

They had to squeeze Diwali in so they can proclaim the woke, equity and inclusive badge… that’s what you get.

Now, back to blaming teachers for everything.

While you’re at it I’m planning my break.

This post is bonkers. Teachers are allowed days off like anyone else. I have zero problem with them requesting days off that week. However, admin should have ensured proper coverage before granting the days. I think this is a poor management issue, not an employee issue. If they didn't figure out they wouldn't have coverage before they granted the days they should have cancelled leave by senority or request date.

As far as sick days..I dont know any professional job that requires documentation of sick days unless you are out 3 days or more.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that teachers do not have to provide ANY documentation for sick leave unless they want to take 3 sick days in a row. It hardly matters that they only have 3 personal days a year because they can totally use sick days as personal days and no one says boo to them. Teachers at my school absolutely can and do (regularly) use sick days to go out of town for a long weekend and do not even try to hide it.

You’re right. We take it and enjoy it. File a lawsuit.

DP. I just do understand why you post things like this? This is how the teaching profession appears to parents and then we are chided when we are concerned about the impact of teacher absences. You want respect, but sound unprofessional.

I don’t want your respect. That’s clearly been demonstrated it’s not going to happen.

I just want you to stfu whenever teachers exercise their right to a life. Odd, innit? Haha

Also, pay me more.

DP. You don't do yourself any favors by sounding so immature.
I have no issues with anyone taking approved leave. I'm an engineer and, at my company, PTO has to be pre-approved. There's no way my management would let my entire team take a day off right before a holiday or major event if our customer needed the coverage.

Anonymous wrote:Just wondering - if a teacher takes more than a certain amount of days, can we fire them? I mean - if my kid misses a certain amount of days they can be kicked out of the school or the school calls truancy officers.

Maybe teachers, like all other jobs, should learn that you work or you lose your job.

Who is “we”? You are nobody’s boss. You have no power to fire anyone.

Anonymous wrote:Kids are resilient, but apparently teachers aren’t.

https://www.nbc12.com/2021/10/21/rps-closing-additional-days-first-week-november-employees-mental-health/

RICHMOND, Va. (WWBT) - In an RPS Direct update on Wednesday evening, Superintendent Jason Kamras said the division will be closing school additional days the first week of November to help with employees’ mental health.

During the first week of November, students already had off Nov. 2 for Election Day, Nov. 4 for Diwali and Nov. 5 for virtual parent/teacher conferences. Now, the division will also close on Nov. 1 and Nov. 3, giving students the whole week off.

I think 3 and 5 are the extra days, and 1 is already a day off.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to mention that teachers do not have to provide ANY documentation for sick leave unless they want to take 3 sick days in a row. It hardly matters that they only have 3 personal days a year because they can totally use sick days as personal days and no one says boo to them. Teachers at my school absolutely can and do (regularly) use sick days to go out of town for a long weekend and do not even try to hide it.

You’re right. We take it and enjoy it. File a lawsuit.

DP. I just do understand why you post things like this? This is how the teaching profession appears to parents and then we are chided when we are concerned about the impact of teacher absences. You want respect, but sound unprofessional.

I don’t want your respect. That’s clearly been demonstrated it’s not going to happen.

I just want you to stfu whenever teachers exercise their right to a life. Odd, innit? Haha

Also, pay me more.