Anonymous wrote:I'm masked and vaxxed but for some reason the vaccine passport does not sit well with me. I can't put my finger on it so I can't give you a rational reason. I won't fight it or complain but I will give it the side eye.

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Anonymous wrote:Per Bethesda Beat, Elrich and outgoing health director Travis Gayles addressed support for a county wide vaccine passport system. They say that it will make more customers feel comfortable patronizing businesses. You would need to show a document just like you would in order to purchase alcohol, or drive. How would we ever survive such tyranny?

Don't forget the tyranny of vaccinations required for school. Also, water fluoridation. And restaurant inspections! I should be allowed to eat at restaurants that keep food at unsafe temperatures, if I want to!

(I'm being sarcastic. I'm not certain the OP was being sarcastic, but I sure hope so.)

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Anonymous wrote:We can't require an ID to vote, but we can require it to enter a business?

We SHOULD require an ID to vote. I can't understand why Democrats think this is unfair. All other developed countries do this.

Sure let’s issue a nationwide Federal ID, free to acquire at any post office, and require businesses to provide days off to acquire and renew and free transport to and from appointments.

No republican would support that, even a national ID would be inflammatory.

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Anonymous wrote:We can't require an ID to vote, but we can require it to enter a business?

We SHOULD require an ID to vote. I can't understand why Democrats think this is unfair. All other developed countries do this.

Can’t speak for others, but my view is that voting is a right, whereas going to a bar is a privilege. Even without a mandate private businesses have the right to refuse service to those whom they deem a hazard to others.

NP, and I agree with this.

Also, I wouldn't object to an ID requirement if IDs were free and easily available. If the nearest DMV is far away and perhaps not even accessible by public transportation, and Rs in your state are closing DMVs in predominantly minority or D areas, and it costs money, and requires documents that also cost money, then you're putting unnecessary obstacles in the way. If you can get your ID at an accessible office for free, then I've got fewer problems with it. Our ID system isn't like that in most developed countries. In fact, I'm old enough to remember conservatives screaming that a national ID was the Mark of the Beast and socialist and a terrible idea.

It's also the case that voter fraud that would be prevented by ID is vanishingly rare. Whereas COVID is currently killing over 1,000 Americans a day.

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Anonymous wrote:We can't require an ID to vote, but we can require it to enter a business?

We SHOULD require an ID to vote. I can't understand why Democrats think this is unfair. All other developed countries do this.

Part of the problem is that Republicans like to pair closing/reducing DMV hours in Democratic areas with voter ID laws. Funny how that works, isn't it?

I don't, in principle, have a problem with requirements to show ID at the polls. But before you do that, you should do a strong push to get people IDs.

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Anonymous wrote:We can't require an ID to vote, but we can require it to enter a business?

We SHOULD require an ID to vote. I can't understand why Democrats think this is unfair. All other developed countries do this.

Can’t speak for others, but my view is that voting is a right, whereas going to a bar is a privilege. Even without a mandate private businesses have the right to refuse service to those whom they deem a hazard to others.

Given the current climate, this is going to push things underground and make things more dangerous for everyone. This is especially true since the litmus test is vaccinations and not tests for immunity natural or otherwise. Time to start building a bunker and prepping.

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Anonymous wrote:Coercion is worse than simply coming out with a mandate. If you're going to go there, own it.

I don't understand this point of view. This isn't coercion. With a vaccine passport policy, people still have a choice of whether or not to get vaccinated.

You should look up what coercion means.

Its too easy to hide behind a claim that it's voluntary when it's not really voluntary if it is designed to be coercive.

Truth.

Vaccine passports are a great idea!! Happy to see this

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Anonymous wrote:Sure. Fine. Vaccinated and hate Elrich here. Whatever you need to do in your mind to keep the schools open.

+1 hate Elrich, fine with vax passport. It will help control covid and keep the schools open.

+2 to all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Coercion is worse than simply coming out with a mandate. If you're going to go there, own it.

I don't understand this point of view. This isn't coercion. With a vaccine passport policy, people still have a choice of whether or not to get vaccinated.

You should look up what coercion means.

Its too easy to hide behind a claim that it's voluntary when it's not really voluntary if it is designed to be coercive.

Anonymous wrote:Coercion is worse than simply coming out with a mandate. If you're going to go there, own it.

I don't understand this point of view. This isn't coercion. With a vaccine passport policy, people still have a choice of whether or not to get vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d prefer nation wide

Jim Eagle policy that would disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. I can see why MoCo would want it though.

EVERYTHING disproportionately hurt the poor and minorities. Sorry, but other countries manage.

+1 including covid

What is stopping poor and minorities from getting the vaccine?

Anonymous wrote:Sure. Fine. Vaccinated and hate Elrich here. Whatever you need to do in your mind to keep the schools open.

+1 hate Elrich, fine with vax passport. It will help control covid and keep the schools open.

Anonymous wrote:We can't require an ID to vote, but we can require it to enter a business?

let's say we change the laws to require ID to vote. Then would it be fine to require a vax passport ? Are the two related?

How about this.... we require people to get a driver's license to drive, but some states (R controlled) don't require a license to own a gun, let alone carry and conceal?

See where I'm going with this?

Sure. Fine. Vaccinated and hate Elrich here. Whatever you need to do in your mind to keep the schools open.