Would be surprised if Tesla has a superior charging network within the next 3-5 years, especially on the east coast. Between the VW settlement money, the federal government, and all the utilities and other car co’s wanting to get in I don’t see Tesla keeping up.

Anonymous wrote:Having been in both, I prefer the Audi unless I was regularly driving 300 miles+ bc the Tesla charging network is superior. The Audi is an elegant, much more solid car with a smoother ride.

More $$$

Having been in both, I prefer the Audi unless I was regularly driving 300 miles+ bc the Tesla charging network is superior. The Audi is an elegant, much more solid car with a smoother ride.

No. I was waiting to trade in my S P100D for the plaid plus but Elon nicked that. I can’t justify trading in 315 range for 390 range especially when I have free unlimited supercharging. So I’ll be keeping her for the time being until the range for the S goes to 500+.

Still waiting for the roadster and the cyber truck. Was thinking about getting a Ferrari…. 458, 488 or F8.

I’d trade it for a Rivian not a Audi.

Send them both to the scrap pile! Junk…

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

And you're literally the only person I've ever seen this feedback from. None of our many passengers have complained about feeling nauseated; I've never felt nauseated as a passenger while DH drives. Given their popularity, I'm guessing it's not a common complaint.

PP here - I've only ridden as passenger in the Tesla 3, so can't speak to other Tesla models, but I know from discussions with others that I'm not the only one.

NP. I won't ride as a passenger in a Tesla. It's like a vomit comet.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

Wow, that is interesting. I wonder if others have experienced this. I wonder what is causing that.

That is so weird, I’m the same exact way. I didn’t know this was a thing.

I recently was in my friend's Tesla and thought I was going to be sick. I thought it was her driving, but maybe it was the car. Who knew....

She just wasn't braking with the regenerative braking in mind - it can feel very push/pull until you figure out how to do it smoothly.

Anonymous wrote:I encourage you to read through the e-tron section of the AudiWorld forums: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/audi-e-tron-232/

My best summary:
--e-tron is gorgeous, just the right size for many, and super comfortable and luxurious interior
--Great handling and driving dynamics
--Faster charging than most competitors under the right conditions
--Lots of persistent problems with the MyAudi app being down and having significant bugs (and on an electric car, a stable app and software do truly matter)
--Lots of little electrical glitches and software issues from A/C having errors, the vehicle constantly logging you out and requiring sign-in, multimedia display going dark and needing to be reset, intermittent CarPlay issues
--For such an expensive car the range is a bit disappointing
--Some experience charging and battery reporting issues where the car says it is full but only displays a range of ~57 miles.
--Dealers are quicker to diagnose and fix mechanical problems, but those with deeper electrical or software problems report constantly hauling it back and forth to the dealer to get to the root of the problem
--Heavier depreciation than the competition (though this applies to all Audis)
--Great for local-ish driving and commuting where you charge at home every night; not as great on road trips (imagine having to charge every ~150 miles)
--A lot of luck-of-the-draw...some owners only experiencing minor issues here and there; other owners stuck in an endless cycle of major issues
--Virtually nobody who owns one has reported it to be problem-free
--You better have a lot of time on your hands because if you get a bad e-tron you'll be spending it back at the dealer. One quote from the forum: "the car has been at the dealer at least once for each of these issues. So assume 9 issues at 3-4 days a piece plus the mildew issue has been escalated to the regional tech director and they have worked on it several times. The only option left is to replace the entire HVAC system which would require removing the entire front dash and likely result in more rattles, etc. This car has spent likely 2 months at the dealer for the 8 months I've owned it."

I'm not really into leasing and prefer to own my vehicles for a good 8-10 years, but if I determined that I had to have an e-tron, I'd lease it. But it really seems like Audi doesn't yet have their **** together on the software and electrical front, and for that reason, I wouldn't touch the e-tron for awhile until (hopefully) they get their act together.

The dream car for me is an e-tron exterior and interior with Tesla's software, tech, range and charging network.

This is me exactly.

Next car will be the plaid until a better EV comes out. I hope Audi & similar can catch up on range & charging network.

I encourage you to read through the e-tron section of the AudiWorld forums: https://www.audiworld.com/forums/audi-e-tron-232/

My best summary:
--e-tron is gorgeous, just the right size for many, and super comfortable and luxurious interior
--Great handling and driving dynamics
--Faster charging than most competitors under the right conditions
--Lots of persistent problems with the MyAudi app being down and having significant bugs (and on an electric car, a stable app and software do truly matter)
--Lots of little electrical glitches and software issues from A/C having errors, the vehicle constantly logging you out and requiring sign-in, multimedia display going dark and needing to be reset, intermittent CarPlay issues
--For such an expensive car the range is a bit disappointing
--Some experience charging and battery reporting issues where the car says it is full but only displays a range of ~57 miles.
--Dealers are quicker to diagnose and fix mechanical problems, but those with deeper electrical or software problems report constantly hauling it back and forth to the dealer to get to the root of the problem
--Heavier depreciation than the competition (though this applies to all Audis)
--Great for local-ish driving and commuting where you charge at home every night; not as great on road trips (imagine having to charge every ~150 miles)
--A lot of luck-of-the-draw...some owners only experiencing minor issues here and there; other owners stuck in an endless cycle of major issues
--Virtually nobody who owns one has reported it to be problem-free
--You better have a lot of time on your hands because if you get a bad e-tron you'll be spending it back at the dealer. One quote from the forum: "the car has been at the dealer at least once for each of these issues. So assume 9 issues at 3-4 days a piece plus the mildew issue has been escalated to the regional tech director and they have worked on it several times. The only option left is to replace the entire HVAC system which would require removing the entire front dash and likely result in more rattles, etc. This car has spent likely 2 months at the dealer for the 8 months I've owned it."

I'm not really into leasing and prefer to own my vehicles for a good 8-10 years, but if I determined that I had to have an e-tron, I'd lease it. But it really seems like Audi doesn't yet have their **** together on the software and electrical front, and for that reason, I wouldn't touch the e-tron for awhile until (hopefully) they get their act together.

The dream car for me is an e-tron exterior and interior with Tesla's software, tech, range and charging network.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

Wow, that is interesting. I wonder if others have experienced this. I wonder what is causing that.

That is so weird, I’m the same exact way. I didn’t know this was a thing.

I recently was in my friend's Tesla and thought I was going to be sick. I thought it was her driving, but maybe it was the car. Who knew....

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

Wow, that is interesting. I wonder if others have experienced this. I wonder what is causing that.

That is so weird, I’m the same exact way. I didn’t know this was a thing.

It’s the acceleration.

More likely the regenerative braking if the driver is new to it and not smooth.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

Wow, that is interesting. I wonder if others have experienced this. I wonder what is causing that.

That is so weird, I’m the same exact way. I didn’t know this was a thing.

It’s the acceleration.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get the love for Teslas - they are literally the only car that I've ever sat in as a passenger where it makes me nauseous and it doesn't matter who is driving.

Wow, that is interesting. I wonder if others have experienced this. I wonder what is causing that.

That is so weird, I’m the same exact way. I didn’t know this was a thing.

Owned a MS and bought an Audi Etron. No comparison, Audi is a better car. The MS is more fun to drive but the etron is simply built better and drives better for any distance. Both are great. Audi is simply a better car. MS is a better computer.