Anonymous
Post 09/07/2021 18:19     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Is he going to raise the max allowed right now for FA? My black child would increase their diversity but it 30k for 3rd grade we can’t even afford 50% of that…….
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2021 17:33     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?




Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.



You don't have to agree with the decision of a publication to do a story on a particular topic, but you should not misrepresent its content either.

The Beacon story cited in this thread does not allege a "conspiracy" and there is absolutely no reason to think the author had any axe to grind. There are legitimate concerns about how DEI efforts are being undertaken at independent schools that the Beacon has covered which others have ignored. The article OP posted originally was not by the Beacon. It was by a different author from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it sensationalized the notion of a "cartel." There was an earlier Beacon story (the one in this thread is actually just a follow up) that described in detail the very close relationship between certain DEI consulting groups and the NAIS accreditation practices that may fuel a sense at some independent schools that they can't do enough DEI work in order to score well when they are reviewed for accreditation purposes. That earlier story quoted a parent who had used the term "cartel" as a short hand way to describe what that parent felt was a sense that ideological uniformity on the approach to DEI at otherwise competing private schools -- an absence of meaningful choice. The Beacon also included quotes from other parents, comments from NAIS itself, a GWU political theorist, the American Enterprise Institute and others. The focus of the earlier story was on the near monopoly influence of NAIS on accreditation of private schools, and how the same consultants who do work for many independent schools have ties to NAIS accreditation standards regarding DEI.



+1

DEI is a major issue in many elite private schools. More transparency and discussion about what DEI should Look like in different contexts is good. There is obviously not one magic formula for correcting institutional racism in schools.

Not a Beacon reader but agree it needs to be debated on the content of an important subject being widely ignored in the media.

The fact that Rodney as a GLTBQ African American is HOS is progress in itself. But wider progress will involve many different voices and affinities having a seat at the table.



What voices and affinities do you feel are absent from the table?



Openness to different approaches to addressing institutional racism. DC area has a tendency to rely too much on brand names rather than focus on the process required.

BLM addresses mostly African American experiences, which is super important … but there are many different subgroups who often report feeling excluded from mainstream society - Native American Indians, Asians, first generation immigrants from regions such as Central America and Middle East, and “white” students who feel they are being overlooked and stereotyped. There is not going to be one formula that includes everyone equitably. What works in one setting won’t work in another.


What do you mean by brand names? Like speakers?
Anonymous
Post 09/06/2021 11:30     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?




Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.



You don't have to agree with the decision of a publication to do a story on a particular topic, but you should not misrepresent its content either.

The Beacon story cited in this thread does not allege a "conspiracy" and there is absolutely no reason to think the author had any axe to grind. There are legitimate concerns about how DEI efforts are being undertaken at independent schools that the Beacon has covered which others have ignored. The article OP posted originally was not by the Beacon. It was by a different author from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it sensationalized the notion of a "cartel." There was an earlier Beacon story (the one in this thread is actually just a follow up) that described in detail the very close relationship between certain DEI consulting groups and the NAIS accreditation practices that may fuel a sense at some independent schools that they can't do enough DEI work in order to score well when they are reviewed for accreditation purposes. That earlier story quoted a parent who had used the term "cartel" as a short hand way to describe what that parent felt was a sense that ideological uniformity on the approach to DEI at otherwise competing private schools -- an absence of meaningful choice. The Beacon also included quotes from other parents, comments from NAIS itself, a GWU political theorist, the American Enterprise Institute and others. The focus of the earlier story was on the near monopoly influence of NAIS on accreditation of private schools, and how the same consultants who do work for many independent schools have ties to NAIS accreditation standards regarding DEI.



+1

DEI is a major issue in many elite private schools. More transparency and discussion about what DEI should Look like in different contexts is good. There is obviously not one magic formula for correcting institutional racism in schools.

Not a Beacon reader but agree it needs to be debated on the content of an important subject being widely ignored in the media.

The fact that Rodney as a GLTBQ African American is HOS is progress in itself. But wider progress will involve many different voices and affinities having a seat at the table.



What voices and affinities do you feel are absent from the table?



Openness to different approaches to addressing institutional racism. DC area has a tendency to rely too much on brand names rather than focus on the process required.

BLM addresses mostly African American experiences, which is super important … but there are many different subgroups who often report feeling excluded from mainstream society - Native American Indians, Asians, first generation immigrants from regions such as Central America and Middle East, and “white” students who feel they are being overlooked and stereotyped. There is not going to be one formula that includes everyone equitably. What works in one setting won’t work in another.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2021 23:52     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?




Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.



You don't have to agree with the decision of a publication to do a story on a particular topic, but you should not misrepresent its content either.

The Beacon story cited in this thread does not allege a "conspiracy" and there is absolutely no reason to think the author had any axe to grind. There are legitimate concerns about how DEI efforts are being undertaken at independent schools that the Beacon has covered which others have ignored. The article OP posted originally was not by the Beacon. It was by a different author from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it sensationalized the notion of a "cartel." There was an earlier Beacon story (the one in this thread is actually just a follow up) that described in detail the very close relationship between certain DEI consulting groups and the NAIS accreditation practices that may fuel a sense at some independent schools that they can't do enough DEI work in order to score well when they are reviewed for accreditation purposes. That earlier story quoted a parent who had used the term "cartel" as a short hand way to describe what that parent felt was a sense that ideological uniformity on the approach to DEI at otherwise competing private schools -- an absence of meaningful choice. The Beacon also included quotes from other parents, comments from NAIS itself, a GWU political theorist, the American Enterprise Institute and others. The focus of the earlier story was on the near monopoly influence of NAIS on accreditation of private schools, and how the same consultants who do work for many independent schools have ties to NAIS accreditation standards regarding DEI.



+1

DEI is a major issue in many elite private schools. More transparency and discussion about what DEI should Look like in different contexts is good. There is obviously not one magic formula for correcting institutional racism in schools.

Not a Beacon reader but agree it needs to be debated on the content of an important subject being widely ignored in the media.

The fact that Rodney as a GLTBQ African American is HOS is progress in itself. But wider progress will involve many different voices and affinities having a seat at the table.



What voices and affinities do you feel are absent from the table?
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2021 19:34     Subject: SSFS New HOS

The school that gets Dr. Rodney Glasgow as HOS is a lucky school indeed. He's fantastic. Gentle, kind, thoughtful and fair.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2021 19:12     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?


Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.



You don't have to agree with the decision of a publication to do a story on a particular topic, but you should not misrepresent its content either.

The Beacon story cited in this thread does not allege a "conspiracy" and there is absolutely no reason to think the author had any axe to grind. There are legitimate concerns about how DEI efforts are being undertaken at independent schools that the Beacon has covered which others have ignored. The article OP posted originally was not by the Beacon. It was by a different author from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it sensationalized the notion of a "cartel." There was an earlier Beacon story (the one in this thread is actually just a follow up) that described in detail the very close relationship between certain DEI consulting groups and the NAIS accreditation practices that may fuel a sense at some independent schools that they can't do enough DEI work in order to score well when they are reviewed for accreditation purposes. That earlier story quoted a parent who had used the term "cartel" as a short hand way to describe what that parent felt was a sense that ideological uniformity on the approach to DEI at otherwise competing private schools -- an absence of meaningful choice. The Beacon also included quotes from other parents, comments from NAIS itself, a GWU political theorist, the American Enterprise Institute and others. The focus of the earlier story was on the near monopoly influence of NAIS on accreditation of private schools, and how the same consultants who do work for many independent schools have ties to NAIS accreditation standards regarding DEI.



+1

DEI is a major issue in many elite private schools. More transparency and discussion about what DEI should Look like in different contexts is good. There is obviously not one magic formula for correcting institutional racism in schools.

Not a Beacon reader but agree it needs to be debated on the content of an important subject being widely ignored in the media.

The fact that Rodney as a GLTBQ African American is HOS is progress in itself. But wider progress will involve many different voices and affinities having a seat at the table.

Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 19:43     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?


Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.



You don't have to agree with the decision of a publication to do a story on a particular topic, but you should not misrepresent its content either.

The Beacon story cited in this thread does not allege a "conspiracy" and there is absolutely no reason to think the author had any axe to grind. There are legitimate concerns about how DEI efforts are being undertaken at independent schools that the Beacon has covered which others have ignored. The article OP posted originally was not by the Beacon. It was by a different author from the Daily Mail in the UK, and it sensationalized the notion of a "cartel." There was an earlier Beacon story (the one in this thread is actually just a follow up) that described in detail the very close relationship between certain DEI consulting groups and the NAIS accreditation practices that may fuel a sense at some independent schools that they can't do enough DEI work in order to score well when they are reviewed for accreditation purposes. That earlier story quoted a parent who had used the term "cartel" as a short hand way to describe what that parent felt was a sense that ideological uniformity on the approach to DEI at otherwise competing private schools -- an absence of meaningful choice. The Beacon also included quotes from other parents, comments from NAIS itself, a GWU political theorist, the American Enterprise Institute and others. The focus of the earlier story was on the near monopoly influence of NAIS on accreditation of private schools, and how the same consultants who do work for many independent schools have ties to NAIS accreditation standards regarding DEI.

Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 18:48     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

I agree that there is a conflict of interest due to the flow of money. However, as a private school teacher I know how poorly they compensate employees. So of course, I applaud anyone that can handle a side hustle and do their full time job in the name of making private schools better. We should all remember how private education even came to be so popular in the DMV. There are so many racial conversations still to be had but because wealthy white people are feeling uncomfortable we have to stop? Nope. Keep pushing!
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 18:33     Subject: SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 6:40. By analogy, St. Andrew's has a very successful program called the Center for Transformative Teaching and Learning (CTTL). When it started up, there was talk of spinning it off to be a separate entity and the HOS would either run it or at least be a key board member of it. At that time, the SAES board saw the potential for a conflict of interest, and kept it under the control of SAES.

Of course, if SSFS's board decided that their fine with Glasgow continuing his other activities when they extended the offer, that is their choice.


Correction, I misread 16:40 as saying that she was more concerned about this than some other things, so I have to disagree with 16:40 as explained above.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 16:55     Subject: SSFS New HOS

I agree with 6:40. By analogy, St. Andrew's has a very successful program called the Center for Transformative Teaching and Learning (CTTL). When it started up, there was talk of spinning it off to be a separate entity and the HOS would either run it or at least be a key board member of it. At that time, the SAES board saw the potential for a conflict of interest, and kept it under the control of SAES.

Of course, if SSFS's board decided that their fine with Glasgow continuing his other activities when they extended the offer, that is their choice.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 16:40     Subject: SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote: NP here. I wish Rodney Glasgow all the best at SSFS. But his apparent conflicts of interest noted in the article are patent and no school should put up with them. If I were a member of the SSFS board, I would ask him to divest himself of his consulting interests if he hasn’t already.

There are different approaches to running diversity programming, and DEI consultants who have paid involvement in such things when they serve also on a school faculty/administratioin likely are influenced by outside engagements in their approach to school issues. Even if not, such dueling financial and reputational activities certainly create the appearance of conflict of interest.



The fact that he’s got so much experience/expertise in the dei space is one of the many reasons he’s so popular with students and their families. This is just not any kind of gotcha-issue. I’m no more concerned about it in terms of conflict of interest than if he was associated with a group dedicated to improving schools’ arts programs or a group that did energy efficiency audits of schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 16:22     Subject: SSFS New HOS

NP here. I wish Rodney Glasgow all the best at SSFS. But his apparent conflicts of interest noted in the article are patent and no school should put up with them. If I were a member of the SSFS board, I would ask him to divest himself of his consulting interests if he hasn’t already.

There are different approaches to running diversity programming, and DEI consultants who have paid involvement in such things when they serve also on a school faculty/administratioin likely are influenced by outside engagements in their approach to school issues. Even if not, such dueling financial and reputational activities certainly create the appearance of conflict of interest.

Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 00:43     Subject: SSFS New HOS

Authors clearly have an axe to grind. The number of educational consultants “profiteering” by moonlighting as consultants on any number of dubious initiatives (SEL anyone?) is a much bigger problem than just DEI. In fact, DEI work seems more legit that some other nonsense people pay big bucks to hire experts on.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2021 00:27     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?


Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.





The article fabricates a conspiracy where there is none. Schools hire consultants who have a positive track record related to the
topic they want to address. It is not a "monopoly" to avoid hiring people who deny the existence of the issue. It is not "profiteering" for a consultant to charge for his time and expertise.

Anonymous
Post 09/01/2021 21:32     Subject: Re:SSFS New HOS

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He is extremely Competent a d well liked by both students and teachers.

However, we should not let cult of personality color more complex issues such as the current DEI culture wars.

The following author raises interesting conflict of interest issues. I do think DEI is really important work but that does not justify excessive profiteering and brand name monopolizing of DEI work and approaches in schools.


https://freebeacon.com/?p=1506132


This is so quaint. The Free Beacon is nothing but a click bait site.

It’s interesting that Donald Trump, Paul Ryan and so many other “conservatives” had no problem with him when he was a leader at SAES. Obviously he is able to work with a lot of different people, from different walks of life. Isn’t that what we want in school administrators?


Umm what? The Beacon may not be what I usually read but we need different points of view. The author of this article was valedictorian at St Andrew’s ES and educated at Yale. Please argue on the substance of the article and not on stereotypes.

Also Rodney was head of MS at SAES not head of entire school as he is now at SSFS. As I said, he is extremely competent and well liked / that is not the issue here. The issue is profiteering and brand name Monopolization in the culture wars around DEI. I think DEI work is really important but I am not comfortable with it being monetized in this way.


The Beacon is a rag.


This is just troll level type commentary: please comment on the substance of the arguments put forward.



For schools to become more aware of social justice issues around systematic racism, DEI consultants are needed. They need to be paid for ans mail hey need credibility.
If Rodney has credibility in this area, which he seems to have, then maybe he is performing a community service by creating a sustainable business model to train and hire out DEI consultants.

However, the author has a good point. Many local private schools have been embroiled in controversy around some heavy handed DEI strategies. Some argue it has created more social conflicts and divisions along race lines in schools then was the case before. Others argue that racism has always been present but schools were looking the other way.

It is good the the SSFS head is tackling these issues in ways people can grasp but he needs to be transparent about any vested interests.