Anonymous
09/05/2021 11:29
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
OP here. Thanks, all! Appreciate the input.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 21:48
Subject: Re:Joining NTEU worth it?
Even when you need them, they basically do nothing. It’s a scam.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 15:21
Subject: Re:Joining NTEU worth it?
Anonymous wrote:I didn’t pay until I needed them.
Just curious but what did you need them for?
Anonymous
08/31/2021 15:04
Subject: Re:Joining NTEU worth it?
I didn’t pay until I needed them.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 14:48
Subject: Re:Joining NTEU worth it?
Former SEC here. I did not pay.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 11:12
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As an attorney I view the NTEU as keeping my wages and flexibility down. I did not join. Their hard sell tactics re: pretending like they wouldn’t represent you in an audit when legally they have to, also really turned me off.
I think there's some truth to this. When I joined they told me salary was non-negotiable because they have this matrix that they agreed to with the union. Ok, I understand that, treat everyone fairly and all that. I find out later that they applied the matrix incorrectly and there is nothing I can do about it.
A few years later, the union gets management to agree to review everyone's salary against the matrix to make sure it was applied correctly. Sounds great, except HR never bothered to review my application and of course there's nothing anyone can do about it. So, on the one hand there's this matrix that supposedly keeps pay uniform and prevents you from negotiating for a pay increase and on the other hand there's no remedy when it is applied incorrectly.
SEC?
Yes.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 10:11
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As an attorney I view the NTEU as keeping my wages and flexibility down. I did not join. Their hard sell tactics re: pretending like they wouldn’t represent you in an audit when legally they have to, also really turned me off.
I think there's some truth to this. When I joined they told me salary was non-negotiable because they have this matrix that they agreed to with the union. Ok, I understand that, treat everyone fairly and all that. I find out later that they applied the matrix incorrectly and there is nothing I can do about it.
A few years later, the union gets management to agree to review everyone's salary against the matrix to make sure it was applied correctly. Sounds great, except HR never bothered to review my application and of course there's nothing anyone can do about it. So, on the one hand there's this matrix that supposedly keeps pay uniform and prevents you from negotiating for a pay increase and on the other hand there's no remedy when it is applied incorrectly.
SEC?
Anonymous
08/31/2021 09:15
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
Anonymous wrote:As an attorney I view the NTEU as keeping my wages and flexibility down. I did not join. Their hard sell tactics re: pretending like they wouldn’t represent you in an audit when legally they have to, also really turned me off.
I think there's some truth to this. When I joined they told me salary was non-negotiable because they have this matrix that they agreed to with the union. Ok, I understand that, treat everyone fairly and all that. I find out later that they applied the matrix incorrectly and there is nothing I can do about it.
A few years later, the union gets management to agree to review everyone's salary against the matrix to make sure it was applied correctly. Sounds great, except HR never bothered to review my application and of course there's nothing anyone can do about it. So, on the one hand there's this matrix that supposedly keeps pay uniform and prevents you from negotiating for a pay increase and on the other hand there's no remedy when it is applied incorrectly.
Anonymous
08/31/2021 08:05
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
As an attorney I view the NTEU as keeping my wages and flexibility down. I did not join. Their hard sell tactics re: pretending like they wouldn’t represent you in an audit when legally they have to, also really turned me off.
Anonymous
08/30/2021 20:35
Subject: Re:Joining NTEU worth it?
Please don’t waste your hard earned money.
Anonymous
08/30/2021 10:20
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
Former member of 2 unions...only if you are planning to be a poor performer. If you aren’t there is no point. As earlier poster said Unions goal is ‘everyone is treated equal’ even when you stay late and Jerry leaves at 2:25 everyday. Also, you are not a freeloader - this is intimidation tactic used by folks who want to be in union leadership because they don’t have the skills to lead OR to follow well. Hard pass.
Anonymous
08/30/2021 09:49
Subject: Joining NTEU worth it?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a member at my organization. The union has stopped some pretty rough changes to our performance plan so they've made a pretty big difference since I have been here.
This. They can have a tremendous impact in negotiation of how performance based metrics are used.
During the former administration, unions did not have much power. Yes they could file a grievance against the agency for firing someone, but the Agency would just appeal it if they lost the grievance and win. The expectation is that things will change in the Appellate body under this administration and the union will have more power.
Also, don't forget that helping to fund the national union is a good thing. A well funded national union will be able to advocate for big picture issues (pay raises from Congress or the administration, and making sure that benefits like EPL leave are included when congress is handing out money).
Although I've never filed a grievance, and hope to never do so, I support the union in my workplace.
I posted about a recent NTEU grievance involving SEC - https://www.secunion.org/news/union-files-national-grievance-challenging-sec-chair-gensler%E2%80%99s-decision-eliminate-sec-employee
If you support these types of initiatives, membership would seem worthwhile.