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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

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I can't wait for the research to come out on this one. Americans throw money at everything.

Come on this and the previous poster you responded to is so silly and needlessly rude. You mean just like the research that a generation ago we were all put to bed on our bellies and that was dangerous? Or that a few years ago everyone was using a rock n play until it was recalled? There’s no reason to be sanctimonious. As far as everyone knows the Snoo is perfectly safe and not causing development problems. Research is ever evolving and probably by the time our kids are parents, yet again so many things we do will be the “old way.” There’s no reason for unhelpful responses like this.

Are you suggesting that the "back to sleep" guidance is wrong or overblown?

No not at all. My point was that it’s easy to be smug about things and say “I can’t wait for the research to come out” and feel superior. And yeah I’m sure a lot of research about tons of things that are currently en vogue with today’s parents will come out, perhaps with the Snoo even. But being needlessly smug about it in the absence of any current research that shows anything harmful about using the Snoo is just rude and not helpful. The “parents these days” comment in the prior pp prompted the comparison bc it sounds like one of those older women with grown kids who likes to troll the baby boards with an air of superiority to all the dumb parents of today, just because we’re doing things differently, as every generation does.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Well anecdotally I know more Snoo babies without developmental delays than with. See how that works? Two of my best friends and I all had Snoo babies who all rolled within the normal range, crawled early, and walked before 1. Meanwhile my cousin who had a baby a week after me who was in a pnp in the parents room and not swaddled after 2 or 3 weeks sat late, crawled late, and still isn’t walking after a year.

Anecdote is silly!

I know how anecdotes work, which is why I prefaced the whole thing as I did. But I also know that most people make decisions based on the experiences of those close to them. When I see a pattern,even if it's not exactly supported (not refuted) by hard science, I certainly consider it when making decisions. And anyway, I never said that using a snoo causes delays. In fact, I explicitly said that I don't think they do. But if your kid is inclined to have delays for whatever reason the snoo isn't going to help.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

+1


I can't wait for the research to come out on this one. Americans throw money at everything.

Come on this and the previous poster you responded to is so silly and needlessly rude. You mean just like the research that a generation ago we were all put to bed on our bellies and that was dangerous? Or that a few years ago everyone was using a rock n play until it was recalled? There’s no reason to be sanctimonious. As far as everyone knows the Snoo is perfectly safe and not causing development problems. Research is ever evolving and probably by the time our kids are parents, yet again so many things we do will be the “old way.” There’s no reason for unhelpful responses like this.

Are you suggesting that the "back to sleep" guidance is wrong or overblown?

I was just talking to a coworker who used it for his son (we're considering renting one for January baby) and he said he wouldn't use it again. His opinion was that it works amazingly well (they used it for ~6 months, son was a preemie), but successful transition to a crib was nearly impossible. They had to record the Snoo noise on their phones as no other white noise worked for their child, and ended up co-sleeping with a dock-a-tot for a long time.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

+1


I can't wait for the research to come out on this one. Americans throw money at everything.

Come on this and the previous poster you responded to is so silly and needlessly rude. You mean just like the research that a generation ago we were all put to bed on our bellies and that was dangerous? Or that a few years ago everyone was using a rock n play until it was recalled? There’s no reason to be sanctimonious. As far as everyone knows the Snoo is perfectly safe and not causing development problems. Research is ever evolving and probably by the time our kids are parents, yet again so many things we do will be the “old way.” There’s no reason for unhelpful responses like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

+1


I can't wait for the research to come out on this one. Americans throw money at everything.

Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Well anecdotally I know more Snoo babies without developmental delays than with. See how that works? Two of my best friends and I all had Snoo babies who all rolled within the normal range, crawled early, and walked before 1. Meanwhile my cousin who had a baby a week after me who was in a pnp in the parents room and not swaddled after 2 or 3 weeks sat late, crawled late, and still isn’t walking after a year.

Anecdote is silly!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

And needlessly rude too. That's too bad you didn't like it, but there is no reason for name calling.

OP - My two stayed in til 8 months but they are on the small side.

PP - What kind of developmental issues are you talking about? There was two month difference between when each of my kids started crawling and a four month difference when each started walking, but the late walker (who didn't start til 16 months) became a playground daredevil shortly thereafter.

Gross motor delays,not rolling over, very late to crawl, and some other things that EI picked up on. The three kids I'm thinking of are now pretty much on track with their peers at 2yo and 3yo, and their PT ppl didn't blame the snoo as far as I know, but the 2 families that now have 2nd kids aren't using the snoo again.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

And needlessly rude too. That's too bad you didn't like it, but there is no reason for name calling.

OP - My two stayed in til 8 months but they are on the small side.

PP - What kind of developmental issues are you talking about? There was two month difference between when each of my kids started crawling and a four month difference when each started walking, but the late walker (who didn't start til 16 months) became a playground daredevil shortly thereafter.

Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Yep, but of course, people will deny it. That thing was crazy stupid. Parents these days are so dumb.

Anecdotally, I did know noire babies with minor developmental delays who used the snoo vs who didn't. I don't think it's the kind of thing that would CAUSE a delay but I do think it exacerbates issues a baby might already have, in the way that it restricts movement and exploration for longer and it more extreme ways than even a regular swaddle.

Anonymous wrote:Snoo was crazy loud. I sent it back. I was convinced it was harmful. The rocking was harsh at times and it was SOO loud.

Sorry, but what do you think OP's question was? And do you think your post is in any way responsive to it?

Snoo was crazy loud. I sent it back. I was convinced it was harmful. The rocking was harsh at times and it was SOO loud.

Anonymous wrote:6 months. We used weaning mode starting at 5 months, I think which made our transition easier. Our DS rolled during tummy time early starting at 6 weeks. I think tummy time is most important for early movement milestones than where they sleep. He met all other milestones early so far - crawling at 5 months, pulling up at 8 months, toddling while holding things at 9 months. He's almost a year and been walking the last two weeks.

I'll also add he is a great sleeper. We didn't even have to sleep train; we attempted expecting a terrible couple of nights with the transition, and he just went to bed no fuss. We used the snoo for all naps and followed the guidance of the happiest baby book regarding sleep. I know it might not work for everyone, but if you've got the luxury of a snoo appreciate it.

6 months. We used weaning mode starting at 5 months, I think which made our transition easier. Our DS rolled during tummy time early starting at 6 weeks. I think tummy time is most important for early movement milestones than where they sleep. He met all other milestones early so far - crawling at 5 months, pulling up at 8 months, toddling while holding things at 9 months. He's almost a year and been walking the last two weeks.