Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

I think it should be just HSM. HSM shows up in the top 5 of most global rankings and contribute the most to academia in the US (+ Berkeley). Y and P are closer to Columbia and Caltech, the next rung of schools, more so than they are to HSM.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the M?

MIT?

University of (M)Virginia

located in Charlottesville, Massachusettes

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the M?

MIT?

University of (M)Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, HYPSM is a term that is only used in these Internet forums and has no bearing in the real world. Your kid would receive the same level of education at any of the T20 or so schools, or perhaps an even better one if it's a top LAC. There is no tangible advantage for employment to attend these schools either, and some LACs even place better for professional and PhD programs. With the exception of maybe Harvard, attending a HYPSM school won't give you a leg up over other elite schools.

You’re conflating the quality of education with the value of the degree. No “LAC” will give you a degree as valuable as a BA from Stanford.

And even you admit that a Harvard College BA opens doors that other schools can’t, even if you can’t quite get yourself to apply the arguments to Yale, Stanford, etc.

So, what are the opportunities that will present itself to a Princeton grad that a Wharton grad would never be able to gain access to? Assuming that HYPSM offers a special distinction in the real world is inaccurate and pathetic.

Oh, man. Are you the parent insecure about Wharton?

This is the UPenn Wharton parent. I can tell by the writing style. Unbelievable.

Anonymous wrote:What is the M?

MIT?

What is the M?

Anonymous wrote:I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

It should be MHSPY.

I have an MD/PhD from a too med school (think Johns Hopkins/Harvard/UCSF) and I think, as a woman, it has hurt me professionally.

It made it easier to get a good residency, but since then I have worked with men from predominantly mid-tier and foreign medical schools in an academic/research setting. I’m in a more technical speciality and most of my colleagues are men. My “fancy” med school appears to trigger their insecurities.

Occasionally when I say something incorrect or just not that smart, my med school pedigree is whipped out and people make snarky comments about what “quality graduates” my med school produces. A few times they have “joked” that I was an affirmative action admit. (I am old - there were affirmative action admissions for women in the MD/PhD program back then). They love to ask me to translate Latin terms, and when I say they can’t, they act “surprised”. And it’s not like I even talk about my pedigree, and I would certainly never hang my diploma in my office.

Honestly, I think that my career may have gone smoother if I had gone to a mid tier med school. As a woman, it’s like my fancy degree is a target on my back and the guys need to prove that they are better than a graduate from my school. I wonder if it is this way for other women?

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Anonymous wrote:Well, Harvard grads get to say “When I was at Harvard . . .” at least once a day.

When you do that too often, people start rolling their eyes internally.

Only internally?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, HYPSM is a term that is only used in these Internet forums and has no bearing in the real world. Your kid would receive the same level of education at any of the T20 or so schools, or perhaps an even better one if it's a top LAC. There is no tangible advantage for employment to attend these schools either, and some LACs even place better for professional and PhD programs. With the exception of maybe Harvard, attending a HYPSM school won't give you a leg up over other elite schools.

You’re conflating the quality of education with the value of the degree. No “LAC” will give you a degree as valuable as a BA from Stanford.

And even you admit that a Harvard College BA opens doors that other schools can’t, even if you can’t quite get yourself to apply the arguments to Yale, Stanford, etc.

I turned down Stanford for Amherst. I’m not even sure what the M stands for. What top school starts with an M?

I kind of feel like it should be HSYPM now, not HYPSM.

If you want to work overseas, degrees from any of those 5 schools will grant you instant access to the elite of that foreign country. Lots of networking opportunities.

What do Harvard and Stanford students have in common? They both got into Stanford.

You can always always tell a Harvard man, but you can’t tell him much.

Anonymous wrote:Well, Harvard grads get to say “When I was at Harvard . . .” at least once a day.

When you do that too often, people start rolling their eyes internally.