Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 19:11     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about having people on parole or people do this instead of paying fines?


So you think it’s acceptable to humiliate people caught up in the criminal justice system by forcing them to do manual labor picking up your trash that you toss on the ground?

Quick - tell me again how you trumpers aren’t in favor of slavery


Bleeding heart liberal here. . . I don’t understand why you are equating work with humiliation? Work is work and there should be pride in a job well done. I come from union families and most members of my extended family do various forms of manual labor. They are good at their jobs and I reject the idea that any are humiliated by their professions or should be ashamed in any way. We SHOULD be paying a living wage for the work we want done, bonus if it can be done by folks at the start of rehabilitation process. Something like this could be a path away from criminal justice system.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 17:30     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about having people on parole or people do this instead of paying fines?


So you think it’s acceptable to humiliate people caught up in the criminal justice system by forcing them to do manual labor picking up your trash that you toss on the ground?

Quick - tell me again how you trumpers aren’t in favor of slavery


Non-Trumper, and I absolutely do. Anyone under 65 capable of working who subsists on welfare (under its many guises) should be required to provide value in exchange. The city is filthy, yet tens of thousands in DC do nothing productive all day on the taxpayer dime.

Workfare *is* fair.


Hasn't charles allen just passed universal basic income? I agree, you work.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 15:22     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:Model it after the janitorial contractors that the BIDs use to keep their blocks clean. It's not complicated. It's a "modest" proposal because it's asking for the bare minimum of city service. SMDH that so many people think sweeping streets is an impossible request.


Because it's inefficient. Why don't we build dams with spoons?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 15:08     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Model it after the janitorial contractors that the BIDs use to keep their blocks clean. It's not complicated. It's a "modest" proposal because it's asking for the bare minimum of city service. SMDH that so many people think sweeping streets is an impossible request.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 14:59     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Any guess as to how large this workforce would be?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 14:59     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:DC liberals would never go for it. They’d consider it too demeaning.


DC already does a version of this for leaf collection.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 14:55     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Aren't people on welfare/section 8 housing/homeless shelters getting paid? I think able bodied should be in work, training program, education or treatment. That was the idea behind welfare to work. And yes, pay and provide a pathway to even better pay. And I'm all for quality, universal day care. BUT, you WORK.


There hasn't been "welfare" since 1996. People who receive housing vouchers will lose them if their earnings go too high. What do you think people in homeless shelters get paid for?

There are search-for-work requirements for unemployment insurance.


Rarely if ever enforced.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2021 14:54     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about having people on parole or people do this instead of paying fines?


So you think it’s acceptable to humiliate people caught up in the criminal justice system by forcing them to do manual labor picking up your trash that you toss on the ground?

Quick - tell me again how you trumpers aren’t in favor of slavery


Non-Trumper, and I absolutely do. Anyone under 65 capable of working who subsists on welfare (under its many guises) should be required to provide value in exchange. The city is filthy, yet tens of thousands in DC do nothing productive all day on the taxpayer dime.

Workfare *is* fair.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2021 16:25     Subject: A modest proposal: Use humans for street sweeping

I'd love see that OP. So not happening in this country unless you pay $60/hr.