Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 13:37     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.


For clarification, are you saying that all four of the soccer programs at your kids' respective schools were total crap?



Seems that way
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 11:27     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.


For clarification, are you saying that all four of the soccer programs at your kids' respective schools were total crap?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 10:35     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.


Say the last sentence a little louder for the people in the back.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:55     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.
it also measures who is mentally weak.


+1

You quit when you are either unwilling or unable to go further. For most it's unwilling and for a few it's unable.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:52     Subject: Re:Beep

Based on many of these comments, there is no useful fitness test available to gauge the absolute baseline amount of running a DMV youth soccer or any college player or potential college player is able or at the very least, willing, to do. I understand they aren't professionals but soccer is a game that obviously requires a ton of running. At various speeds, I know. But If you're gassed after 10 minutes then play rec and forget about playing in college. You're no good to your teammates if you're the best player on the team technically but only effective for an 1/8 of the match. Jesus.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:46     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.
it also measures who is mentally weak.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:43     Subject: Beep

Anonymous wrote:Strange comment. Do they mean when you can get 40 but your team requirement is 32 so you do just enough instead of pushing yourself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The beep test is a progressive to failure test. It’s brutal to anyone if performed correctly and with best effort.
It can be sandbagged as well if that’s what you want.

Why get an app? Go to a football field with marked lines and play the test on YouTube and go.
What would you want an app for?



How do you sandbag it?


Yes, that is what PP means. Sounds like some of you don't know your DC's all that well. Most of them do the bare minimum and don't push themselves.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:09     Subject: Re:Beep


Really, really do not recommend using beep test for fitness training. It really does not in any way line up with the type of fitness required for soccer. If you want to use it as a test go ahead, but even then know that it isn't really testing soccer fitness at all where your rate of recovery is as important as anything else. The beep test is really only meaningful as a measure of your performance on a beep test. With that in mind, since the only use would be as a test and only as a measure of your performance on a beep test, any of the many apps on the app store should do the job just fine when you need to run one.


For beep tests in college--yes, if you play soccer in college you will very likely be required to get a certain score on a fitness test of some sort. I've had kids in 4 different college programs and every one has done some sort of testing not just beginning of season but throughout the season. They've used beep test, man-u, and yoyo. Some require higher scores as season progresses--others have had the same minimum but just kept testing. Sort of relevant, all of the programs were total crap and quality of training didn't come close to what they got with local youth coaches.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 08:55     Subject: Beep

Strange comment. Do they mean when you can get 40 but your team requirement is 32 so you do just enough instead of pushing yourself?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The beep test is a progressive to failure test. It’s brutal to anyone if performed correctly and with best effort.
It can be sandbagged as well if that’s what you want.

Why get an app? Go to a football field with marked lines and play the test on YouTube and go.
What would you want an app for?



How do you sandbag it?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 07:47     Subject: Beep

Anonymous wrote:The beep test is a progressive to failure test. It’s brutal to anyone if performed correctly and with best effort.
It can be sandbagged as well if that’s what you want.

Why get an app? Go to a football field with marked lines and play the test on YouTube and go.
What would you want an app for?



How do you sandbag it?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 00:38     Subject: Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most GA/ECNL clubs use it to know where players are at the start of pre season. Every kid will need a different plan to be match fit.
In college if you do not pass the beep test you will not be allowed to train until you do


Some colleges do that, not all. Some schools run beep test, some yoyo test, and some don’t do a test at all. That is strictly up to the coaches.


No college program won’t to a base line test at the start of pre season


Every single D1 college does a beep, or yoyo or man-u test. Every one.


I take it your college classes didn’t cover how double negatives work?
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:23     Subject: Beep

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most GA/ECNL clubs use it to know where players are at the start of pre season. Every kid will need a different plan to be match fit.
In college if you do not pass the beep test you will not be allowed to train until you do


Some colleges do that, not all. Some schools run beep test, some yoyo test, and some don’t do a test at all. That is strictly up to the coaches.


No college program won’t to a base line test at the start of pre season


Every single D1 college does a beep, or yoyo or man-u test. Every one.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 17:01     Subject: Beep

The beep test is a progressive to failure test. It’s brutal to anyone if performed correctly and with best effort.
It can be sandbagged as well if that’s what you want.

Why get an app? Go to a football field with marked lines and play the test on YouTube and go.
What would you want an app for?

Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:26     Subject: Re:Beep

Anonymous wrote:If you can only last for 7-8 minutes than you are woefully out of shape and have no business playing travel soccer.

So probably most of the travel players in this area.


And certainly not college soccer, I'll add.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:25     Subject: Re:Beep

If you can only last for 7-8 minutes than you are woefully out of shape and have no business playing travel soccer.

So probably most of the travel players in this area.