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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

20/500? That’s 4%. So, if you do really well at one of the areas best publics, you have a 4% chance of attending an Ivy+. Then, you have to take into account the number who got admitted based on a hook, like legacy and athletics. That’s probably half, at least. So, not that impressive.

I personally know three kids (there are more) from Langley going to Ivies this year. They’re all athletic recruits.

Only a little more than 300 completed this list, won't know about the full 500 until Bethesda magazine publishes their list.

Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

20/500? That’s 4%. So, if you do really well at one of the areas best publics, you have a 4% chance of attending an Ivy+. Then, you have to take into account the number who got admitted based on a hook, like legacy and athletics. That’s probably half, at least. So, not that impressive.

I personally know three kids (there are more) from Langley going to Ivies this year. They’re all athletic recruits.

Of course most of the Whitman kids are legacies. They also have the advantage of parents who have been prepping them to apply to college since they were young. And they can pay for tutors etc. Not the case and not the same results at Blair, Einstein, etc. Blair does have some impressive destinations (multiple Brown, Yale, Harvard, MIT etc.) but those kids are almost all if not all in the magnet or in CAP.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m most struck by the number of kids going to better public schools. The numbers are from memory, so some may be off, but these alone account for about a quarter of the class. Ivy admissions account for about 5 % of the class.

UMD - College Park (20+)
UVA (8)
Virginia Tech (5)
Wisconsin (15!!)
Michigan (8)
UNC (5)
Indiana(8)
UC -SB (5)

So many Wisconsin for a Maryland public school! That was surprising to me. But I wonder if most kids choose not to report to this public site? It seems like this wouldn't appeal to kids who value their privacy.

Not at whitman, but my DC in a magnet wants to get out of MD and go north our west or even international. Absolutely does not want to go south. Hates the humid weather.

Anonymous wrote:I think if these kids got less than 1500 in SAT and less than 3.7 GPA they should be ashamed and go to Montgomery College. What slackers.

When my older kids graduated from Whitman a few years ago, there always were 15-20 kids who listed their destination as Montgomery Community College—surprised not to see similar on the 2021 list. A couple of my kids’ friends started there because their parents were budget-conscious, and ended up at College Park. Others had learning disabilities that hurt their ability to earn a decent GPA. Whitman gets criticized on here for reasons fair and unfair, but it’s not a monolithic place. Class sizes are massive and all sorts of kids who don’t fit the stereotypes are there doing their thing.

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Anonymous wrote:This is impressive but these kids have had every advantage.

Okay but still impressive!!

Well, sure. But on DCUM if your [b]mom did EBF, your parents are married or know how to cook, all of that is deemed a privilege.[b]

Which means that you have all excuses to not do well at any SES.

I think any advantage that we claim Whitman has can be cancelled because these kids did not cosleep with their parents and were allowed to CIO.

Those are privileges for a kid though. I don’t understand your point.

I think if these kids got less than 1500 in SAT and less than 3.7 GPA they should be ashamed and go to Montgomery College. What slackers.

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Anonymous wrote:This is impressive but these kids have had every advantage.

Okay but still impressive!!

Well, sure. But on DCUM if your mom did EBF, your parents are married or know how to cook, all of that is deemed a privilege.

Which means that you have all excuses to not do well at any SES.

I think any advantage that we claim Whitman has can be cancelled because these kids did not cosleep with their parents and were allowed to CIO.

Anonymous wrote:This is impressive but these kids have had every advantage.

Okay but still impressive!!

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

TJ is a larger, stronger magnet than any magnet program in MCPS, and each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ, some of whom end up at the Ivies plus Stanford and MIT. Also, Virginia has stronger state schools than Maryland, so there are more kids attending UVA and W&M rather than Ivies.

The class at TJ is what 450 kids? You’re claiming that two high schools send 75% of the class?

PP didn’t say each school sent 150 kids in each class to TJ. It’s been about 35-40 students from each school in every class.

So if Langley or McLean each send @15 kids to the Ivies plus MIT and Stanford every year, which is fairly common, and you add the TJ kids from the Langley and McLean catchment areas, it would be around 20 annually, if not more. But it’s not surprising Whitman has a lot, when you consider that UMCP < UVA/W&M and also that there are more Ivy grads living in Bethesda and Chevy Chase than in McLean and Great Falls (= more legacies).

PP literally wrote “ each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ”.

This is impressive but these kids have had every advantage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

TJ is a larger, stronger magnet than any magnet program in MCPS, and each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ, some of whom end up at the Ivies plus Stanford and MIT. Also, Virginia has stronger state schools than Maryland, so there are more kids attending UVA and W&M rather than Ivies.

The class at TJ is what 450 kids? You’re claiming that two high schools send 75% of the class?

PP didn’t say each school sent 150 kids in each class to TJ. It’s been about 35-40 students from each school in every class.

So if Langley or McLean each send @15 kids to the Ivies plus MIT and Stanford every year, which is fairly common, and you add the TJ kids from the Langley and McLean catchment areas, it would be around 20 annually, if not more. But it’s not surprising Whitman has a lot, when you consider that UMCP < UVA/W&M and also that there are more Ivy grads living in Bethesda and Chevy Chase than in McLean and Great Falls (= more legacies).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

TJ is a larger, stronger magnet than any magnet program in MCPS, and each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ, some of whom end up at the Ivies plus Stanford and MIT. Also, Virginia has stronger state schools than Maryland, so there are more kids attending UVA and W&M rather than Ivies.

The class at TJ is what 450 kids? You’re claiming that two high schools send 75% of the class?

Yea, you're gonna have to back that up with something other than your mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

TJ is a larger, stronger magnet than any magnet program in MCPS, and each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ, some of whom end up at the Ivies plus Stanford and MIT. Also, Virginia has stronger state schools than Maryland, so there are more kids attending UVA and W&M rather than Ivies.

The class at TJ is what 450 kids? You’re claiming that two high schools send 75% of the class?

Anonymous wrote:I’ll admit that it’s a very impressive list. No other non-magnet public school in the DMV compares. Well over 20 admissions to the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. You won’t find that at Langley or McLean. No way.

TJ is a larger, stronger magnet than any magnet program in MCPS, and each of Langley and McLean has been sending @150 kids to TJ, some of whom end up at the Ivies plus Stanford and MIT. Also, Virginia has stronger state schools than Maryland, so there are more kids attending UVA and W&M rather than Ivies.