Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP Kitchen never closed as long as they clean up.

12 pm weekdays
2 am weekends

But they are old enough to not wake you.

It's summer let them be kids. And if they are home not out wandering I say YAY

DP but yeah, so true. DS met up with a friend at 1am to go for a walk around the neighborhood. I didn’t find out until the next day when he told me about it. He thought it was great since it was a nice night out. I was not happy. True, I never told him not to do this. Because I never thought he would! So a new rule in our house is no leaving in the middle of the night when your parents are sleeping and don’t know you are gone.

Do you live in a dangerous neighborhood? I don’t have a problem with this.

Anonymous wrote:OP Kitchen never closed as long as they clean up.

12 pm weekdays
2 am weekends

But they are old enough to not wake you.

It's summer let them be kids. And if they are home not out wandering I say YAY

DP but yeah, so true. DS met up with a friend at 1am to go for a walk around the neighborhood. I didn’t find out until the next day when he told me about it. He thought it was great since it was a nice night out. I was not happy. True, I never told him not to do this. Because I never thought he would! So a new rule in our house is no leaving in the middle of the night when your parents are sleeping and don’t know you are gone.

Quiet when the youngest goes to bed at 9 pm. Lights out and phones away at 11 on school nights. No lights out time on weekends/school break/summer, but they need to be quiet.

I get up at 7. I don’t do loud things (like use the blender/vacuum or play loud music) until 9 or later.

OP Kitchen never closed as long as they clean up.

12 pm weekdays
2 am weekends

But they are old enough to not wake you.

It's summer let them be kids. And if they are home not out wandering I say YAY

It is summer, and it has been a long miserable year. Tell them to keep it down, and if you won't wear ear-plugs, get a white-noise machine.

And then, let it go. They'll have to go to bed early and wake up early soon enough for school, and before they know it school will be over and they will be in the work force and have to get up early and probably be grumpy, just like their dad. So let them enjoy it now

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts on the children but do you have foam earplugs? If you can learn to use them, they’re very empowering.

These do not block out all sounds. They muffle them. I use them but still wake up.

Good foam earplugs used properly (squished/twisted into a narrow cylinder and slid all the way into the ear canal) will block out normal house sounds like OP’s concern.

NP. I could never sleep like this! What if someone broke in? Or there was a bad storm and I couldn’t hear what was going on? Or the dog started barfing? Terrible idea.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts on the children but do you have foam earplugs? If you can learn to use them, they’re very empowering.

These do not block out all sounds. They muffle them. I use them but still wake up.

Good foam earplugs used properly (squished/twisted into a narrow cylinder and slid all the way into the ear canal) will block out normal house sounds like OP’s concern.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t have any thoughts on the children but do you have foam earplugs? If you can learn to use them, they’re very empowering.

These do not block out all sounds. They muffle them. I use them but still wake up.

My kids are younger (tweens) but our “quiet hours” on weekdays are 10pm-7am or so. DH and I are up early for work. They don’t need to be asleep that early, but they need to quiet.

Weekend nights we don’t care, unless the noise is really excessive.

I wouldn't expect them to be in bed by 12 or 1, but it's reasonable for you expect them to be relatively quiet by those hours.

If you are having to get out of bed and tell them to be quiet multiple times during the night, they should have clued in by now that they are being too loud. If you have not told them to be quieter and are just arguing back and forth with your wife, let them know directly and see if they can control the noise without any additional measures.

I have zero issues with my college kids keeping odd hours (by my standards) but we go to bed around 11pm and I expect them to respect that and not wake us. We have to wake and work in the morning within the regular schedule for our workplace so if they choose to sleep late then they need to deal with ordinary household noise, sounds of us on Zoom calls, etc. They are really good kids so we're dealing with issues like friends over late, parties, etc. I know we have it easy.

Mine are 16 and 13. I take away phones when I go to bed around 10:30 and switch the internet off. They can stay up as late as they want, but ever since I started doing this, they go to bed at a reasonable time

The staying up late — meh, natural consequences will take of loads of super-late nights. The waking up the household thing wouldn’t fly, though. Everyone in the house is due common courtesy, and repeatedly waking up people who need their sleep isn’t nice. (And it’s not like they’re waking you up in the process of trying to come quietly into the house — they’re waking you up bc they’re throwing a party at 3am.)

Time for a family meeting: You agree not to vacuum before 10, while they agree to keep it to a dull roar after midnight.

I think 11 pm is fair. Snacks but no cooking.

I don’t have any thoughts on the children but do you have foam earplugs? If you can learn to use them, they’re very empowering.