Anonymous
07/29/2021 20:17
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
What is PAC? Where are they located? I think we should talk to the coach.
The coach / director of PAC is a former pro player who has forgotten more about soccer than you've ever dreamed of knowing. His son happens to be an MLS keeper who has made multiple starts for the USMNT. I encourage you to be all badass and try to teach him about soccer. He will, as always, be incredibly pleasant and accommodating. But, you've probably picked the wrong coach to lecture about results. Oh, and we're not with PAC. It was excruciating to not choose that club, but everyone has various factors to consider.
The PP was being sarcastic. Ppp said that PAG devolops their players and pp was saying 'lets talk to them" as if development is an anomaly in this area.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 18:52
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
What is PAC? Where are they located? I think we should talk to the coach.
The coach / director of PAC is a former pro player who has forgotten more about soccer than you've ever dreamed of knowing. His son happens to be an MLS keeper who has made multiple starts for the USMNT. I encourage you to be all badass and try to teach him about soccer. He will, as always, be incredibly pleasant and accommodating. But, you've probably picked the wrong coach to lecture about results. Oh, and we're not with PAC. It was excruciating to not choose that club, but everyone has various factors to consider.
Better than our director who screams and demands kickball while scrimmaging every. Single. Practice. And. Never. Teaches.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 18:42
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
What is PAC? Where are they located? I think we should talk to the coach.
The coach / director of PAC is a former pro player who has forgotten more about soccer than you've ever dreamed of knowing. His son happens to be an MLS keeper who has made multiple starts for the USMNT. I encourage you to be all badass and try to teach him about soccer. He will, as always, be incredibly pleasant and accommodating. But, you've probably picked the wrong coach to lecture about results. Oh, and we're not with PAC. It was excruciating to not choose that club, but everyone has various factors to consider.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 18:11
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:A lot. No one seems to want to be a defender, but he wants to do it and does it reasonably well, so he played most of every game. I am sure it is due to the position and lack of interest from others in learning to do it vs. his talent (he's reasonably good, but nothing special).
Thats coming from the parent. So he really is on the lower end of the team all parents see their kid as better than everyone else.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 18:04
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
A lot. No one seems to want to be a defender, but he wants to do it and does it reasonably well, so he played most of every game. I am sure it is due to the position and lack of interest from others in learning to do it vs. his talent (he's reasonably good, but nothing special).
Anonymous
07/29/2021 18:04
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
You belong at Rec then. They absolutely should guarantee playing time, and if they don't deliver, you've got a legitimate gripe. Not for travel though. Playing time is earned, not given.
Imagine being in bottom division of NCSL with a losing record and thinking “playing time is earned, not given” lol
Playing time is always earned not given. If your that bad on a bad team and you cant earn plating time you probably suck and need to either work 5x harder than everyone else or quit entirely and join Boy Scouts.
This guy is a bootlicker. Probably has a thin blue line sticker next to his molon labe sticker
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:58
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
I agree with this poster. You are paying for development. Unless your child is on an ECNL team or MLSNext they should get a good amount of playing time.
It used to be you had 1 or 2 travel teams in your area and you tried if yo got cut it was back to rec soccer til next year. Now you have 1000 clubs who will take any kid who's parents will pay.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:51
Subject: Re:How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
My DS was on a top local team with 21 kids on the roster. Most weeks there was an injury or two. Occasionally a player had to sit out a game due to roster size limitations. This was roatated around the whole team. The center backs often played the whole game because we really only had two, and one or two of the top players played 75% of the game, others played less but it was hardly ever the case that enyone played less than 50%. We had two GKs who always split 50-50.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:50
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
I agree with this poster. You are paying for development. Unless your child is on an ECNL team or MLSNext they should get a good amount of playing time.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:49
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
What is PAC? Where are they located? I think we should talk to the coach.
My child was at VSA. Premier AC is in Burke I think?
I will say that eventually the play time will go to the strongest 11. But that shouldn’t happen until they are in 10th - 12th grade. Why in the hell would you bench a 8-13 year old. The games are literally just for development, they don’t mean shite.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:42
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
What is PAC? Where are they located? I think we should talk to the coach.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:41
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
of course they should be getting playing time, but the expectations should be set before you "pay" to play no matter what the level so kids and parents aren't shocked when they don't get a ton of playing time. the problem is even if the expectation is set, for example on the top ecnl girls teams in our club, once a players playing time drops to 50% and below parents get very upset. i see parents very upset if their daughter is subbed out at all.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:39
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
You belong at Rec then. They absolutely should guarantee playing time, and if they don't deliver, you've got a legitimate gripe. Not for travel though. Playing time is earned, not given.
Imagine being in bottom division of NCSL with a losing record and thinking “playing time is earned, not given” lol
Playing time is always earned not given. If your that bad on a bad team and you cant earn plating time you probably suck and need to either work 5x harder than everyone else or quit entirely and join Boy Scouts.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:28
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did your child's coach sit many of the players out or did they rotate? DC on a team where most everyone shows up to every game and I'm not sure how it's going to work with 18 kids and only 11 on the field. Last year we had many kids on the bench and it was really unpleasant for everyone.
Last season ds was a U14 and played right and left back for 65-75 minutes a game. It was NPL and he was one of the stronger players on the team. He moved up to ECNL so I’m a bit anxious to see how he transitions.
Our club believes that play time should be close to evenly distributed until u15 and up
The only team I’ve known like that is PAC. they truly do develop players. When a bottom level U11/12 team benches kids, it’s ridiculous. The bottom team is for development.
Anonymous
07/29/2021 17:26
Subject: How much playing time did your U13 (now U14) player get last year if you had a large roster?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry, I disagree. If you are paying a club to develop your player, they should be getting playing time. If my player was not getting at least 50% playing time, I would talk to the coach, then the age group director, then the technical director.
You belong at Rec then. They absolutely should guarantee playing time, and if they don't deliver, you've got a legitimate gripe. Not for travel though. Playing time is earned, not given.
Imagine being in bottom division of NCSL with a losing record and thinking “playing time is earned, not given” lol
Precisely our teams situation and Coach still benched 2-3 kids for majority of the game.