Anonymous
07/31/2021 17:06
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With delta in a classroom of 25, sure it can be, even if they do the 'eating in two waves' thing, with every other kid and every other row.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
please show me the research where a 20 minute unmasked lunch period is so consequential.
please Google fleeting + delta.
No no, link us to the research. You are doing the anti-vaxxer thing of saying "just google it."
You are doing the thing of demanding peer-reviewed published research on a topic that is too fresh for it.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 16:06
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With delta in a classroom of 25, sure it can be, even if they do the 'eating in two waves' thing, with every other kid and every other row.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
please show me the research where a 20 minute unmasked lunch period is so consequential.
please Google fleeting + delta.
No no, link us to the research. You are doing the anti-vaxxer thing of saying "just google it."
Anonymous
07/31/2021 16:04
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With delta in a classroom of 25, sure it can be, even if they do the 'eating in two waves' thing, with every other kid and every other row.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
please show me the research where a 20 minute unmasked lunch period is so consequential.
please Google fleeting + delta.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 16:03
Subject: Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
All health care providers in the city are required by law to submit vaccine data to the DC Immunization registry (this includes hospitals, pharmacies etc.) so the school nurses and OSSE have access to immunization rates. Now, if a student moves from out of state than the data will need to be manually uploaded to the DC registry. I really wish we had a national immunization registry.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:59
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:With delta in a classroom of 25, sure it can be, even if they do the 'eating in two waves' thing, with every other kid and every other row.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
please show me the research where a 20 minute unmasked lunch period is so consequential.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:56
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
With delta in a classroom of 25, sure it can be, even if they do the 'eating in two waves' thing, with every other kid and every other row.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:40
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
But then they would need to be sitting within 3 feet during lunch time. Also, if lunch is outside that no longer counts.
There should not be a need for widespread quarantining of kids whether or not they were vaccinated. But teachers (now) and students (when approved) should be required to be vaccinated. There is literally no other way out of the pandemic.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:36
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
look, masks just are not magic in that way. A short lunch period is not a superspreader event.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:35
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Vaccinated students and teachers who test positive for COVID can still pass the virus to those who are unvaccinated.
So yes, EVERYONE should be sent home to quarantine until they test negative.
No, that’s not what the CDC says. CDC says the vaccinated do not have to quarantine, just test.
Also, we should take the approach of testing close contacts daily instead of quarantining.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:32
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Wasn't the plan for lunch to take place in the cafeteria with multiple cohorts this year? Not making a joke I actually believe that's what I was told in June.
From a staff coverage standpoint, requiring all classes to stay in their classrooms to eat lunch sounds like a logistical nightmare. With schools at 100% capacity I can't imagine that being a requirement.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:30
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Wasn't the plan for lunch to take place in the cafeteria with multiple cohorts this year? Not making a joke I actually believe that's what I was told in June.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:24
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
If I was referring to perfect adhesion to the guidelines, I would have mentioned kids lifting their masks to scratch their faces or drink water.
What I described isn't imperfect adhesion to the guidelines, but potentially broad failures to even seek to follow the guidelines, that could be addressed by schools.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 15:19
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Yeah, you can't expect perfect adhesion to the guidelines, and it unenforceable anyway. But we know that, and the CDC knows that.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 14:55
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Anonymous wrote:Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
If children have 10min mask-free morning snack time in the classroom, and 20 mini mask-free lunch in the classroom, they did not engage is consistent use of well-fitting masks.
If children are wearing surgical masks, which by design are not well-fitting, or masks that frequently fall under their nose, they did not engage in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks.
Anonymous
07/31/2021 14:37
Subject: Re:Schools are not even collecting vaccine info on kids so everyone goes home if ANY positive case?
Importantly, this is CDC guidance on 'close contacts' in k-12 settings. I imagine, like other surrounding school districts, this will soon be adopted by OSSE:
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.
"Exception: In the K–12 indoor classroom setting, the close contact definition excludes students who were within 3 to 6 feet of an infected student (laboratory-confirmed or a clinically compatible illness) where
both students were engaged in consistent and correct use of well-fitting masks; and
other K–12 school prevention strategies (such as universal and correct mask use, physical distancing, increased ventilation) were in place in the K–12 school setting."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/contact-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact
Meaning the exposure quarantines wouldn't send the entire class home.