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Anonymous wrote:I think the only thing that convinces hold outs is a consequence they value more than whatever is keeping them from getting vaccinated.

I have neighbors who are absolutely sure the vaccine causes infertility, so they didn't get it.

Then she was offered a great job that required it, and boom -- she got the vax. Suddenly infertility wasn't as big a risk as losing out on a great job.

Why does it bother you that people waited risks and benefits before getting vaccine?

Because they didn't. They just waited and hoped everyone else would get vaccinated so they wouldn't have to.

The only "risks and benefits" they calculated were the time it would take to get the shots and the possible and totally temporary mild side effects.

Or, they were glued to Tucker Carlson and clutching their Gadson flags because the China Virus ain't actually reel.

Anonymous wrote: nope - we consider ourselves to be far left on the political spectrum and strongly believe the "My body, my choice " belief goes for abortions, drug use (legalize all drugs) as well as Covid vaccinations.

What about childhood vaccinations?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only thing that convinces hold outs is a consequence they value more than whatever is keeping them from getting vaccinated.

I have neighbors who are absolutely sure the vaccine causes infertility, so they didn't get it.

Then she was offered a great job that required it, and boom -- she got the vax. Suddenly infertility wasn't as big a risk as losing out on a great job.

Why does it bother you that people waited risks and benefits before getting vaccine?

It doesn't "bother" me. I was responding to the OP about what convinced my neighbor who was not getting vaxxed because of misleading information. Those that don't get the shot due to misinformation do affect all of us, FYI. However, it is ok for people to weight the risks - hopefully using facts in their calculations.

Our mid-20s nephew didn't get the vaccine unt a couple of weeks ago. He was concerned about possible long-term effects, plus he felt like he was already being safe by wearing a mask, etc. (and his mom has always leaned a little toward the hippie crunchy vaccine-skeptical side).

He's young and healthy, but he works outside the home and lives with his elderly grandparents and his aunt. All vaxxed, but my SIL had a heart transplant a decade ago and takes immunosuppresant drugs, so we don't know how effective her vaccine response was.

It took a concerted effort from the extended family (including his same-age cousins) of acknowledging his fears but also explaining the science and the danger he could be putting SIL in. Much to everyone's relief, he finally got it. I think it helped that his reluctance was not a political or idealogical stance but caused more by not really understanding the science behind the vaccines and fear of the unknown.

Yes. My FIL said he was going to wait until the doctor told him to come in to office for b/c before then ‘she must think I don’t need’ ! It was a combination of we’ll drive you to get it saying we couldn’t host him inside that finally got him to get. He wasn’t calling his doc to see if he needed - just ‘knew’ if important she’d call him. I’d guess like my doc she was sending out info via email updates but he’s not online.

Anonymous wrote:Tell them to research Covid medical debt. Seriously, too many people under 65 don’t realize how a hospital stay can bankrupt their family even with insurance. Even if they don’t own a home they would be afraid to lose, medical bills can destroy their credit making it difficult to rent a house, get a car loan or even pass a background check for some jobs.

This! The vaccine is free. An ICU stay is not.

No. I don't think it's worth the damage. I have been very open about my vaccination experience if it comes up though. I don't like to tell people how to live, so I suggested speaking with a doctor in regards to concerns about potential side effects.

I just found out that my well-educated BIL and SIL who live in a hotspot haven’t been vaccinated. They have a toddler at home.

I literally never see them, so I’m not going to make the effort to encourage them, but ugh. Who do they think is going to watch their kid if they end up in the hospital?

Anonymous wrote: nope - we consider ourselves to be far left on the political spectrum and strongly believe the "My body, my choice " belief goes for abortions, drug use (legalize all drugs) as well as Covid vaccinations.

Your drug use and abortions can’t impact my child that’s too young to get vaccinated, but your choice to not get vaccinated could.

Yes my spouse. I did my research and was persistent but not confrontational. It took 2 months to convince them. Then another month negotiating to get their consent to get our teens vaccinated, which they are now finally. It's been exhausting.

nope - we consider ourselves to be far left on the political spectrum and strongly believe the "My body, my choice " belief goes for abortions, drug use (legalize all drugs) as well as Covid vaccinations.

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Anonymous wrote:No.

I just will not see them inside until they get the vaccine or the pandemic ends and that's fine with me.

Most are slowly being vaccinated, after they've seen most people do ok with the vaccine.

Just FYI: pandemic officially ended.

Just FYI: wrong.

Unfortunately no. I have a child who is following their idiotic, immature spouse and a sister that is buying into some of the ridiculous propaganda. My child already had the virus and is healthy but my sister is definitely at ris, as a k with underlying med issues. But, I am continuing to be low key but persistent.

BTW, one of the reason I took the J&J because of the fact it was a variation of a vaccine used for many years in hopes of getting the sister to try that one...obviously didn't work

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the only thing that convinces hold outs is a consequence they value more than whatever is keeping them from getting vaccinated.

I have neighbors who are absolutely sure the vaccine causes infertility, so they didn't get it.

Then she was offered a great job that required it, and boom -- she got the vax. Suddenly infertility wasn't as big a risk as losing out on a great job.

Why does it bother you that people waited risks and benefits before getting vaccine?

Because it's almost always a selfish calculation. You're relying on others to take the vaccine and thus end the pandemic.

Tell them to research Covid medical debt. Seriously, too many people under 65 don’t realize how a hospital stay can bankrupt their family even with insurance. Even if they don’t own a home they would be afraid to lose, medical bills can destroy their credit making it difficult to rent a house, get a car loan or even pass a background check for some jobs.