Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 16:13     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:Our charter told us their entire staff has been vaccinated.


That's awesome! I would heartily welcome being at a school with a lower likelihood of covid transmission next year and a higher likelihood of not having quarantines and shutdowns. That seems like it will make everyone's lives better.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 16:12     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:Our charter told us their entire staff has been vaccinated.



What will probably happen is schools with high vaccination rates will trumpet that to parents and schools with low vaccination rates will act like that information is nobody's business.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 16:02     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Our charter told us their entire staff has been vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 15:51     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


On what authority can you be sure DCPS will NOT require all teachers to be vaccinated? The EEOC has ruled that employers VERY WELL CAN REQUIRE employees to be vaccinated. I expect DCPS to do just that, in the very near future. I have not read any logical reason why DCPS should not do this.



I work in central office. Ferebee has made clear that the vaccine WILL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR ANY TEACHER/PRINCIPAL/AIDE/CUSTODIAN etc. They will also not require it of any student. THIS 2021-2022 SCHOOL YEAR.

You can write in caps all you want. So can I. It doesn’t matter what the Eeoc said. It won’t be required this school year. Next year….maybe. But not this one.


so it can’t be required for kids either. great work guys!
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 15:38     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


On what authority can you be sure DCPS will NOT require all teachers to be vaccinated? The EEOC has ruled that employers VERY WELL CAN REQUIRE employees to be vaccinated. I expect DCPS to do just that, in the very near future. I have not read any logical reason why DCPS should not do this.



I work in central office. Ferebee has made clear that the vaccine WILL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR ANY TEACHER/PRINCIPAL/AIDE/CUSTODIAN etc. They will also not require it of any student. THIS 2021-2022 SCHOOL YEAR.

You can write in caps all you want. So can I. It doesn’t matter what the Eeoc said. It won’t be required this school year. Next year….maybe. But not this one.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 15:29     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


On what authority can you be sure DCPS will NOT require all teachers to be vaccinated? The EEOC has ruled that employers VERY WELL CAN REQUIRE employees to be vaccinated. I expect DCPS to do just that, in the very near future. I have not read any logical reason why DCPS should not do this.


While I don’t disagree that DCPS can and probably should require the vaccine, they won’t for this year. If they were going to they would have announced it in the spring to give teachers enough time to either get fully vaccinated or quit because they don’t want to. What they will avoid at all costs is saying in October that everyone must be vaccinated by January or something. Because when a large number of people still refuse how will they fill those positions? It would be an utter disaster.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:53     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


On what authority can you be sure DCPS will NOT require all teachers to be vaccinated? The EEOC has ruled that employers VERY WELL CAN REQUIRE employees to be vaccinated. I expect DCPS to do just that, in the very near future. I have not read any logical reason why DCPS should not do this.


there’s no way they can require it for kids if they don’t require it for teachers
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:49     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


On what authority can you be sure DCPS will NOT require all teachers to be vaccinated? The EEOC has ruled that employers VERY WELL CAN REQUIRE employees to be vaccinated. I expect DCPS to do just that, in the very near future. I have not read any logical reason why DCPS should not do this.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:17     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:Our charter told us that they were not requiring anyone get the vaccine, but that they had requested information, and that "over 90%" of teachers and staff had been vaccinated.


Were the teachers up-in-arms about privacy invasion?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:16     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:Our charter told us that they were not requiring anyone get the vaccine, but that they had requested information, and that "over 90%" of teachers and staff had been vaccinated.


This seems like a reasonably strategy. If I were at that charter I would feel pretty happy about that (given my kids are too young for the shot).

Ask for information but don't require it. Report the information broadly.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:15     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:Our charter told us that they were not requiring anyone get the vaccine, but that they had requested information, and that "over 90%" of teachers and staff had been vaccinated.


What charter?
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 14:12     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Our charter told us that they were not requiring anyone get the vaccine, but that they had requested information, and that "over 90%" of teachers and staff had been vaccinated.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 13:33     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


So, assuming that 1) vaccines won't be mandatory for teachers/staff, and 2) we won't know what percentage of teachers/staff are vaccinated, what's everyone's thoughts?

My main thoughts are that:
1) that my trust in teachers' purported need to make schools covid-safe is eroded
2) I'm going to have to believe in the absence of data that 40% of teachers/staff won't be vaccinated.
3) I'll be angry, undoubtedly. I've supported teachers doing DL until they were vaccinated, but if they are choosing to NOT be vaccinated in great numbers (and 40% to me is a great number in this situation), then I feel like I've been duped.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 13:27     Subject: When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The public doesn't really need to know the raw numbers, as long as DCPS requires all of its employees to be vaccinated. It's a pretty easy thing for an employee to accomplish: simply present your proof of vaccination, and show up for work.


As a parent of a student that can't yet be vaxxed, I'm comfortable not knowing the numbers of teachers that are vaccinated if DCPS does in fact make the vax mandatory for teachers and staff -- presumably if we have mandatory vaccination, the percentage would be 100% (or near it).

But, in the likely event that the vax will not be mandatory for DCPS teachers and staff, how does that increase risk for students who are not vaxxed or who are immunocompromised? What percentage of teachers not being vaxxed (40%?) seems like it's a unnecessary risk that teachers should not create for young kids?


Well I can tell you they WILL NOT require the vaccine this school year.


So, assuming that 1) vaccines won't be mandatory for teachers/staff, and 2) we won't know what percentage of teachers/staff are vaccinated, what's everyone's thoughts?

My main thoughts are that:
1) that my trust in teachers' purported need to make schools covid-safe is eroded
2) I'm going to have to believe in the absence of data that 40% of teachers/staff won't be vaccinated.
3) I'll be angry, undoubtedly. I've supported teachers doing DL until they were vaccinated, but if they are choosing to NOT be vaccinated in great numbers (and 40% to me is a great number in this situation), then I feel like I've been duped.
Anonymous
Post 07/09/2021 13:25     Subject: Re:When do we get data on how many teachers are vaccinated?

Other government employees have already reported their vaccination rates.

"Virginia officials say less than half of State Police troopers are vaccinated and about 50 percent of corrections officers in the state have been vaccinated. Large police departments have slightly better rates, with 58 percent of officers vaccinated in the District and 65 percent vaccinated in Prince George’s County. Montgomery County’s high countywide vaccination rate is mirrored among its officers, about 71 percent of whom have gotten the shot."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/covid-vaccine-law-enforcement/2021/06/12/77d456e4-c93a-11eb-afd0-9726f7ec0ba6_story.html