Anonymous
07/09/2021 17:37
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
OP you are a parent for God's sake get the vaccine.
And learn science your kids will be better off with an intelligent parent instead of an idiot.
And learn science your kids will be better off with an intelligent parent instead of an idiot.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 17:35
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:My SIL got covid when pregnant. She only experienced it as a minor cold, but a few weeks later delivered very early.
Of course she did, blah ,blah, blah anti vaxer.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 17:34
Subject: Re:help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Just another vote to get the vax. I had mine when I was 22 and 25 weeks pregnant; delivered a healthy baby girl a few weeks ago.
The risks of the vax are unknown (but appear minimal based on data already collected); the risks of covid are known and scary.
Having had baby, I feel extra good about my decision since babies have been shown to have some immunity when moms have gotten their shots while pregnant!
The risks of the vax are unknown (but appear minimal based on data already collected); the risks of covid are known and scary.
Having had baby, I feel extra good about my decision since babies have been shown to have some immunity when moms have gotten their shots while pregnant!
Anonymous
07/09/2021 17:28
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
We know a family who lost their mom. She had four kids and passed away when she had the 5th of COVID.
You and your unborn baby and your existing child and your husband would be insulated from your loss, or their own illness in the case of the kids, if you get vaccinated.
I don't mean to bully or scare you. But you said to talk you out of your irrationality.
Get the shot, Mom.
You and your unborn baby and your existing child and your husband would be insulated from your loss, or their own illness in the case of the kids, if you get vaccinated.
I don't mean to bully or scare you. But you said to talk you out of your irrationality.
Get the shot, Mom.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 17:25
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:OP, I dont think your anxiety is out of line. I gave birth last fall and am relieved I didnt have to face the vaccine pressure. I would not choose to get it because I have relatives who were DES Daughters.
OP here - this right here it’s these plausible but unlikely events and scenarios that stick in my mind.
Let me ask you hypothetically would you consider it later in the third trimester like even the first shot?
Yes my mental health is declining, husband and I are arguing more, and my 3 year old is acting up a ton. It just makes me scared about when baby is here and it’ll be worse.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 16:37
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
OP, I dont think your anxiety is out of line. I gave birth last fall and am relieved I didnt have to face the vaccine pressure. I would not choose to get it because I have relatives who were DES Daughters.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 16:22
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
22 weeks here and vaccinated at 6 and 9 weeks. I regret nothing. My baby is growing normally and I decided the lesser risk was the vaccine compared to getting COVID while pregnant. I also have two other children who are not yet eligible for the vaccine but do get care/schooling out of our home. We will wear masks (again, unvaccinated children) but the vaccine was the right choice for me.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 16:15
Subject: Re:help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:I chose to get pregnant while vaccinated.
I think what you need to remember is that NOTHING is 100% safe. Aiming for 0% risk is both impossible and illogical, because NOT getting the vaccine isn't 100% safe either!
The vaccine is very, very safe. But no one can tell you there is 0% risk. EVERYTHING has some small level of risk. Your house could be hit by a meteor with you just sitting there. The level of risk of the vaccine is vanishingly small, but it does exist.
However - NOT getting the vaccine is far from 100% safe. You're introducing a few risks:
1) The mental, emotional, and social risks to continuing to isolate to an extreme degree, for you, your husband and both your children. This is a real danger.
2) The (admittedly vanishingly small) risk that even with your level of isolation, you do end up getting covid. Like you said, variants are happening. What if one becomes surface transmittable and your three year old picks it up on the playground and gives it to you? Unlikely, yes, but not 0% risk.
3) The risk to you and, especially, your newborn of getting covid when in the hospital giving birth. Honestly, this is the one that pushed me over to getting the vaccine. The most dangerous time to get covid for all children (everyone under age 18) is ages 0-2 months old. If you get vaccinated now, your baby will have some immunity. There are very real, documented risks to newborn from getting covid. Plus, there are unknowns here as well - what if getting covid while pregnant or as a newborn negatively impacts your kid later in life? This is MUCH more likely than long term effects from the vaccine.
The risk of the vaccine is so small, it's hard to quantify. Probably the same for number 2. Number 1 is just generally tough to quantify (you can't really put numbers on "social health") though I think it is real and likely significantly bigger than the risk of the vaccine. But number 3? That's the biggie. That is a real, quantifiable risk to you, and particularly, to your baby. Don't risk it! Get the vaccine!
I am 29 weeks and choosing not to get vaccinated because of concerns about risks down the line (for me or for baby). But I am not sitting in my house living in fear. I have been living a pretty normal life for about 14 months. I agree with this person that #1 has serious consequences for you, and in your case I’d probably get the vaccine if it meant you’d actually go out and live life outside your home. Your children deserve some normalcy!
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:52
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lawyer have a healthy three year old and am 35. I am currently 18 weeks pregnant and not yet vaccinated and I cannot get over my irrational fear of the vaccine.
I work from home, kid stays at home, no family or friends near, and a small town with 2 cases in the last month and in a state with over 60% vaccinated.
I am self isolating still and only outings are hikes and empty playground and yard and maybe a curbside pickup for food. But I am miserable and lonely and I want my kiddo and husband to go out in the world after a year plus of this.
I am afraid of two things: if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed it won’t affect the baby (like cause a stroke or cleft lip or no arm or neurological issue anything)? if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed my baby later in life won’t have any issues?
I don’t know why I can’t be rational about this - the only way the two questions above are 100% is if I don’t get the vaccine. But delta and covid scare the heck out of me. I wanted immediate vaccination after giving birth but not sure that waiting is smart.
Help me be rational (and yes I have healthy anxiety).
A doc on TV said it messes with placenta. Messed up my period. I sure wouldn't.
Signed
Vaccinated person
"A doc on tv" WHAT THE EFFFFFF.
OP, please talk through your fears with YOUR doctor. About what is best for YOU, the BABY and your family. That is the best person to work this through with.
I would encourage you to get vaccinated, but I am just a stranger on the internet. Please find reputable sources to get information from (not someone wearing a lab coat on tv during a paid appearance).
The vaccine is safe. Billions of people have been vaccinated. If there were issues, we would know about them by now.
You mean, don't listen to medical doctors or science? Just because an M.D. goes on TV, that doesn't negate their credentials in medicine and science. Just do your research, and talk to doctors.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:48
Subject: Re:help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
I chose to get pregnant while vaccinated.
I think what you need to remember is that NOTHING is 100% safe. Aiming for 0% risk is both impossible and illogical, because NOT getting the vaccine isn't 100% safe either!
The vaccine is very, very safe. But no one can tell you there is 0% risk. EVERYTHING has some small level of risk. Your house could be hit by a meteor with you just sitting there. The level of risk of the vaccine is vanishingly small, but it does exist.
However - NOT getting the vaccine is far from 100% safe. You're introducing a few risks:
1) The mental, emotional, and social risks to continuing to isolate to an extreme degree, for you, your husband and both your children. This is a real danger.
2) The (admittedly vanishingly small) risk that even with your level of isolation, you do end up getting covid. Like you said, variants are happening. What if one becomes surface transmittable and your three year old picks it up on the playground and gives it to you? Unlikely, yes, but not 0% risk.
3) The risk to you and, especially, your newborn of getting covid when in the hospital giving birth. Honestly, this is the one that pushed me over to getting the vaccine. The most dangerous time to get covid for all children (everyone under age 18) is ages 0-2 months old. If you get vaccinated now, your baby will have some immunity. There are very real, documented risks to newborn from getting covid. Plus, there are unknowns here as well - what if getting covid while pregnant or as a newborn negatively impacts your kid later in life? This is MUCH more likely than long term effects from the vaccine.
The risk of the vaccine is so small, it's hard to quantify. Probably the same for number 2. Number 1 is just generally tough to quantify (you can't really put numbers on "social health") though I think it is real and likely significantly bigger than the risk of the vaccine. But number 3? That's the biggie. That is a real, quantifiable risk to you, and particularly, to your baby. Don't risk it! Get the vaccine!
I think what you need to remember is that NOTHING is 100% safe. Aiming for 0% risk is both impossible and illogical, because NOT getting the vaccine isn't 100% safe either!
The vaccine is very, very safe. But no one can tell you there is 0% risk. EVERYTHING has some small level of risk. Your house could be hit by a meteor with you just sitting there. The level of risk of the vaccine is vanishingly small, but it does exist.
However - NOT getting the vaccine is far from 100% safe. You're introducing a few risks:
1) The mental, emotional, and social risks to continuing to isolate to an extreme degree, for you, your husband and both your children. This is a real danger.
2) The (admittedly vanishingly small) risk that even with your level of isolation, you do end up getting covid. Like you said, variants are happening. What if one becomes surface transmittable and your three year old picks it up on the playground and gives it to you? Unlikely, yes, but not 0% risk.
3) The risk to you and, especially, your newborn of getting covid when in the hospital giving birth. Honestly, this is the one that pushed me over to getting the vaccine. The most dangerous time to get covid for all children (everyone under age 18) is ages 0-2 months old. If you get vaccinated now, your baby will have some immunity. There are very real, documented risks to newborn from getting covid. Plus, there are unknowns here as well - what if getting covid while pregnant or as a newborn negatively impacts your kid later in life? This is MUCH more likely than long term effects from the vaccine.
The risk of the vaccine is so small, it's hard to quantify. Probably the same for number 2. Number 1 is just generally tough to quantify (you can't really put numbers on "social health") though I think it is real and likely significantly bigger than the risk of the vaccine. But number 3? That's the biggie. That is a real, quantifiable risk to you, and particularly, to your baby. Don't risk it! Get the vaccine!
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:45
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
OP, the evidence of harm of contracting covid during pregnancy is already known. You want to protect yourself, and your child. Please get vaccinated. But more importantly: please talk to your doctor about your fears.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:44
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lawyer have a healthy three year old and am 35. I am currently 18 weeks pregnant and not yet vaccinated and I cannot get over my irrational fear of the vaccine.
I work from home, kid stays at home, no family or friends near, and a small town with 2 cases in the last month and in a state with over 60% vaccinated.
I am self isolating still and only outings are hikes and empty playground and yard and maybe a curbside pickup for food. But I am miserable and lonely and I want my kiddo and husband to go out in the world after a year plus of this.
I am afraid of two things: if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed it won’t affect the baby (like cause a stroke or cleft lip or no arm or neurological issue anything)? if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed my baby later in life won’t have any issues?
I don’t know why I can’t be rational about this - the only way the two questions above are 100% is if I don’t get the vaccine. But delta and covid scare the heck out of me. I wanted immediate vaccination after giving birth but not sure that waiting is smart.
Help me be rational (and yes I have healthy anxiety).
A doc on TV said it messes with placenta. Messed up my period. I sure wouldn't.
Signed
Vaccinated person
"A doc on tv" WHAT THE EFFFFFF.
OP, please talk through your fears with YOUR doctor. About what is best for YOU, the BABY and your family. That is the best person to work this through with.
I would encourage you to get vaccinated, but I am just a stranger on the internet. Please find reputable sources to get information from (not someone wearing a lab coat on tv during a paid appearance).
The vaccine is safe. Billions of people have been vaccinated. If there were issues, we would know about them by now.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:40
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lawyer have a healthy three year old and am 35. I am currently 18 weeks pregnant and not yet vaccinated and I cannot get over my irrational fear of the vaccine.
I work from home, kid stays at home, no family or friends near, and a small town with 2 cases in the last month and in a state with over 60% vaccinated.
I am self isolating still and only outings are hikes and empty playground and yard and maybe a curbside pickup for food. But I am miserable and lonely and I want my kiddo and husband to go out in the world after a year plus of this.
I am afraid of two things: if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed it won’t affect the baby (like cause a stroke or cleft lip or no arm or neurological issue anything)? if I get the vaccine, am I 100% guaranteed my baby later in life won’t have any issues?
I don’t know why I can’t be rational about this - the only way the two questions above are 100% is if I don’t get the vaccine. But delta and covid scare the heck out of me. I wanted immediate vaccination after giving birth but not sure that waiting is smart.
Help me be rational (and yes I have healthy anxiety).
A doc on TV said it messes with placenta. Messed up my period. I sure wouldn't.
Signed
Vaccinated person
OP here I also wondered f I should wait until fall and third trimester when baby is more “baked” but again I come back to my two questions. Because of covid when so much was unknown I didn’t want to get pregnant last year but being 35 I also didn’t want to wait more, so now I’m in this limbo of decision making.
God I hate this pandemic.
Having a fever is more dangerous to the fetus in the first two trimesters.
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:38
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
Anonymous wrote:We have ample evidence that during pregnancy, especially with fever, can hurt a fetus.
That should say disease during pregnancy
Anonymous
07/09/2021 12:38
Subject: help me be rational - pregnant and not vaccinated
We have ample evidence that during pregnancy, especially with fever, can hurt a fetus.