Anonymous
07/07/2021 09:35
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For example, the presentation on the Depression was incredibly naive. As an economist, I think they could easily do better.
Go on….
Yay! Big government miraculously pulls us out of a Depression that only lasted eight years! FDR saves the nation! Hoover didn't care since he didn't enlarge the government enough. (He did expand the government: look it up.) FDR further expands the government and eventually going into war saves the economy.
Never mind that no economic downturn had ever lasted that long in the past. I'm sure that there was no alternative view on what was happening and how to fix it. After all, the teacher didn't mention it. We certainly wouldn't want to look at the issues discussed in the 1936 election.
I actually don't disagree with you on this. You have a solid point. However, when it comes to AP US History, the job is to teach to the exam (yet further reasons why standardized exams aren't REALLY a great thing). APUSH teachers are evaluated on how well their students handle the exam, and TJ teachers do exceptionally well with this - partially, of course, because the admissions process has historically overselected for test-taking ability.
Anonymous
07/07/2021 09:33
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids in Fairfax County. No one is being indoctrinated. Teachers are professionals teaching their subjects and teaching kids to be critical thinkers. Why are people so afraid of hearing multiple points of view and perspectives? The human experience is wide and varied.
Critical thinking and conservatism do not mix
+ 10000000
Oooh....
Such profundity...
Can't DCUM do better?
They don't need to.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 23:27
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?
They just want to play victim.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 20:26
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids in Fairfax County. No one is being indoctrinated. Teachers are professionals teaching their subjects and teaching kids to be critical thinkers. Why are people so afraid of hearing multiple points of view and perspectives? The human experience is wide and varied.
Critical thinking and conservatism do not mix
+ 10000000
Oooh....
Such profundity...
Can't DCUM do better?
Anonymous
07/06/2021 20:18
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids in Fairfax County. No one is being indoctrinated. Teachers are professionals teaching their subjects and teaching kids to be critical thinkers. Why are people so afraid of hearing multiple points of view and perspectives? The human experience is wide and varied.
Critical thinking and conservatism do not mix
+ 10000000
Anonymous
07/06/2021 20:08
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?
The school board.
They have been doing it for years, even before TJ admissions was on the table.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 20:03
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
You played yourself. You gamed the system to maximum exploitation and the system responded with changes; changes that broadened the net without stifling the pool of qualified students.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 19:39
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?
Just read the lawsuit.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 19:06
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.
Who made statements against Asian American students, and what did they say?
Anonymous
07/06/2021 18:54
Subject: student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Of course they can change admissions but the way they did it — secretively at first, statements against Asian American students my multiple decision makers, with no proper process, notice or public hearing— is not okay.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 18:44
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For example, the presentation on the Depression was incredibly naive. As an economist, I think they could easily do better.
Go on….
Yay! Big government miraculously pulls us out of a Depression that only lasted eight years! FDR saves the nation! Hoover didn't care since he didn't enlarge the government enough. (He did expand the government: look it up.) FDR further expands the government and eventually going into war saves the economy.
Never mind that no economic downturn had ever lasted that long in the past. I'm sure that there was no alternative view on what was happening and how to fix it. After all, the teacher didn't mention it. We certainly wouldn't want to look at the issues discussed in the 1936 election.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 18:28
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:
As for the geographic quotas, it’s no fault of FCPS that families have self-segregated to the extent that they have. It’s not FCPS’ fault that while East and Southeast Asians are spread roughly evenly through the area, there is an extreme concentration of South Asians in Herndon and Chantilly.
What’s not going to happen is you’re not going to get an exam back. Exams cost money and the application fee is gone for good - and there is far too much evidence that confirms that having an exam confers a huge advantage in families who are willing to invest the time and resources on expensive and grueling prep, and that’s bad for the TJ environment and Northern Virginia at large no matter how you slice it.
It is considered discrimination to use geography as a proxy for race.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 18:24
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:For example, the presentation on the Depression was incredibly naive. As an economist, I think they could easily do better.
Go on….
Anonymous
07/06/2021 18:24
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
For example, the presentation on the Depression was incredibly naive. As an economist, I think they could easily do better.
Anonymous
07/06/2021 17:59
Subject: Re:student admissions and TJ lawsuit
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have 2 kids in Fairfax County. No one is being indoctrinated. Teachers are professionals teaching their subjects and teaching kids to be critical thinkers. Why are people so afraid of hearing multiple points of view and perspectives? The human experience is wide and varied.
Well, OK then. The biggest mistake the teachers made was insisting on going virtual. It was quite interesting listening in my kid's APUSH class. It's certainly wasn't the version of US history I learned and I grew up in a town generally viewed as more leftist than NoVa.
The basic problem is that both sides are not being presented.
Which side would you like presented? What is going unsaid?