That girl sucks, OP. I forgive you your vent about her, because I posted recently about a similar sort-of friend situation and the girl’s parents are so similar. I thought we were way beyond thinking it’s cute or clever to be endlessly ironic, cynical, snide, or mean as a way to prove our superiority, and yet parents around me think it’s a cute and even aspirational way to be. Gross.

Second the PP who said to get your DD out of that girl’s class any way possible. Do it now before they set classes for August.

It’s really not just “bratty,” is what I meant to add ^. I’m glad others are more saintly here, but I appreciate PP telling me feeling shame is unnecessary; I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

That wasn't OP!

OP here, and I did this, too. Not my finest moment, but I did admit to venting and I can’t delete it.

The point of the thread is we all have these thoughts and feelings. It’s fine. Our kids are hurting and we have some bad thoughts. You didn’t say it out loud to anyone!

Don’t let these people shame you.

I don’t think everyone does have these thoughts. If I did I hope I would see them for what they are-unrealistic vilification and catstrophixibg of a little girl, albeit a bratty one. Op is writing as though she believes she is right that this is an irredeemably bad (and ugly!) child who has behaved monstrously. That’s…a bit much.

That’s…just fine with me.

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

That wasn't OP!

OP here, and I did this, too. Not my finest moment, but I did admit to venting and I can’t delete it.

The point of the thread is we all have these thoughts and feelings. It’s fine. Our kids are hurting and we have some bad thoughts. You didn’t say it out loud to anyone!

Don’t let these people shame you.

I don’t think everyone does have these thoughts. If I did I hope I would see them for what they are-unrealistic vilification and catstrophixibg of a little girl, albeit a bratty one. Op is writing as though she believes she is right that this is an irredeemably bad (and ugly!) child who has behaved monstrously. That’s…a bit much.

Yup. Been there done that with my kid who had other issues but was left out, made fun of, etc. etc.

This child is now a teenager, and has straight As. She thinks outside of herself all the time. Is my friend okay? Is my pet okay? It's hard to see it now, but having your kid be treated badly makes them empathetic and good at reading people. There are books smarts, and there are people smarts. Your child will have both, because she will have seen how people behave badly toward her.

As for me, those kids are just memories. Haven't seen them in years. People move on quickly these days, relocate. This is a moment in time that will pass quickly. Prepare your child for the future. Look past this one kid. They will be in the rear view mirror in a few years.

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

That wasn't OP!

OP here, and I did this, too. Not my finest moment, but I did admit to venting and I can’t delete it.

The point of the thread is we all have these thoughts and feelings. It’s fine. Our kids are hurting and we have some bad thoughts. You didn’t say it out loud to anyone!

Don’t let these people shame you.

My DD has been on the receiving end of this, too. I went to the school and made sure they wouldn’t be in the same class the following year. No way. Having special needs is already hard enough for my kid, she doesn’t need to be around others who mock her for it. Coincidentally the mocking child also had “cool” parents.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has some SNs related to motor skills and her former friend has noted that mine can’t climb on to the top of playground equipment, and has ignored her, mocked her, rolled her eyes at her, and otherwise been a bunch of words I can’t type here. My daughter seems to understand that she should not even say hi going forward, as the girl will gleefully greet their mutual friend and ignore her. I’m just venting because I hate that nasty kid so much. She is a terrible shit, and her “irony loving,” sarcastic, thinks-they’re-cool parents helped create that. I can’t say this IRL so I’m venting (with no purpose) here.

+1 to all of it, but especially the bolded.

We have "friends" we've known since before any of us had kids who are like this, and like this around their kids, and now that their kids are getting to be 6 or 7, their kids are also sarcastic and rude, and we no longer hang out with them at all because I don't want to be around any of it.

It is bizarre how many people view their kids as yet another cool accessory and not, you know, a person who they are responsible for turning into a worthwhile person. They'd rather cultivate their kid's musical taste or fashion sense than teach them kindness or tolerance. It's alarming to watch and you are wise to stay away, OP. I'm so sorry your daughter has to deal with someone like that.

Yes, thank you! It’s a really strange thing to witness. I suppose it doesn’t seem to bear fruit when the kids are essentially pre-verbal, but while there are outliers, the kids that struggle with basic kindness have in my admittedly limited experience, been raised by at least one ridiculously snide parent. YMMV.

slow your roll OP. my child has autism and can be mean/impulsive. we are spending $1000s on therapy and fights with the school for an IEP. I don’t blame any parent for whateve they do to protect their kid, but my kid is not garbage either.

Settle down. This child is not on the spectrum. No one is speaking of your child, and I know how tough the road can be with appointments and out of pocket expenses, and I hope it gets better with the school, I mean that! This is a practiced mean child, where the dad has laughed at how nasty the child has been to others in front of me, too and her. She’s “too cool to play with THOSE kids.” He was amused by this, to have a “tough” girl, not a “typical” girl. I know that sounds insane, but I live in a real hipster (lacking a better word) neighborhood (not in DC - used to live there, we are now in NYC) and some folks value perceived idiosyncrasy when what it is is a pattern of bullying.

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

That wasn't OP!

OP here, and I did this, too. Not my finest moment, but I did admit to venting and I can’t delete it.

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

That wasn't OP!

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Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

+1

Anonymous wrote:Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.

she’s insulting the appearance of a 6 year old. it’s over the top.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter has some SNs related to motor skills and her former friend has noted that mine can’t climb on to the top of playground equipment, and has ignored her, mocked her, rolled her eyes at her, and otherwise been a bunch of words I can’t type here. My daughter seems to understand that she should not even say hi going forward, as the girl will gleefully greet their mutual friend and ignore her. I’m just venting because I hate that nasty kid so much. She is a terrible shit, and her “irony loving,” sarcastic, thinks-they’re-cool parents helped create that. I can’t say this IRL so I’m venting (with no purpose) here.

+1 to all of it, but especially the bolded.

We have "friends" we've known since before any of us had kids who are like this, and like this around their kids, and now that their kids are getting to be 6 or 7, their kids are also sarcastic and rude, and we no longer hang out with them at all because I don't want to be around any of it.

It is bizarre how many people view their kids as yet another cool accessory and not, you know, a person who they are responsible for turning into a worthwhile person. They'd rather cultivate their kid's musical taste or fashion sense than teach them kindness or tolerance. It's alarming to watch and you are wise to stay away, OP. I'm so sorry your daughter has to deal with someone like that.

Yes, thank you! It’s a really strange thing to witness. I suppose it doesn’t seem to bear fruit when the kids are essentially pre-verbal, but while there are outliers, the kids that struggle with basic kindness have in my admittedly limited experience, been raised by at least one ridiculously snide parent. YMMV.

slow your roll OP. my child has autism and can be mean/impulsive. we are spending $1000s on therapy and fights with the school for an IEP. I don’t blame any parent for whateve they do to protect their kid, but my kid is not garbage either.

Anonymous wrote:I get this OP.

When people are mean to my children, I have thoughts that are really just horrible.

There was a girl who just tortured my son in second grade. The mom was awful too. My son was so unhappy. I will get flamed for this, but the girl was clearly going to end up not being attractive and I took immense pleasure from this.

Oh yeah. Watching the mean kids grow up ugly is satisfying as all hell.

Also the boy who was a strong player and complete asshole in rec basketball for years and his dad stood there and watched and did nothing…he ended up tiny. Also satisfying.

Lay off the OP. This is a repeated pattern of bullying from this girl.

At some point we all have a breaking point. She’s venting.