Anonymous
Post 06/27/2021 09:29     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.

OP err. No, dear, neither our nanny nor DH and I have “a lot to learn”. Our 2.5 yr old doesn’t nap anymore and our baby takes very short naps. Nanny chooses to read to 2.5 yr old when the baby naps and so do we.

NP here. You all are choosing to make yourselves exhausted and then acting like it's a crisis. I really have no sympathy for any of you. Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint. I guarantee you that the reason that Larla doesn't get into Harvard will not be that you or your nanny decided to let her play with some toys in a child-safe area for 30 minutes while you rested instead of reading her "Hop on Pop" one more time.




The child gave up his/her nap. While the baby is sleeping, the parents and nanny choose to use the time to read to the child.
Let it go, PP. You sound insane.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2021 00:34     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.

OP err. No, dear, neither our nanny nor DH and I have “a lot to learn”. Our 2.5 yr old doesn’t nap anymore and our baby takes very short naps. Nanny chooses to read to 2.5 yr old when the baby naps and so do we.

NP here. You all are choosing to make yourselves exhausted and then acting like it's a crisis. I really have no sympathy for any of you. Parenting is a marathon, not a sprint. I guarantee you that the reason that Larla doesn't get into Harvard will not be that you or your nanny decided to let her play with some toys in a child-safe area for 30 minutes while you rested instead of reading her "Hop on Pop" one more time.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2021 00:07     Subject: I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope she’s being paid well.



OP here. $27 an hour. And we love her. I hope that’s “well paid”.


Not for the DC area and for kids that young.

Please. It’s over $60k/year. That’s the going rate for a good nanny with two kids same family.



Plus full healthcare and annual bonus. It’s a good package.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2021 00:05     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:Nanny here who believes in sleep training/able to bring kids to a happy nap schedule. It's you who are bending to your child's will and offer reading books instead of nap, of course the child would learn to take advantage of you and have you reading to them even if his eyes are closing. Being there, done that. The ability to sleep train comes with years of experience and few nannies have patience and confidence to even attempt that, and 2,5 yr old still need a nap for all of his huge developmental needs, so pls consider that. They are just so happier when they take that nap. And, happy parents/caregivers are so much more fun.



Oh, stop. Lots of 2.5 yr olds give up their naps. Both my kids were done by 2.5. You clearly don’t have as much experience as you think.

And, btw, nannies do not sleep train without parents express permission and cooperation. You do not make that decision.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 23:23     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Institute independent playtime! If the 2.5 year old had an hour of independent playtime during 5 month old’s best nap, and 5 month old had 30 mins independent playtime during 2.5 naps, your nanny (and you!) would be much saner.

https://www.babywisemom.com/independent-playtime-overview/



Ah, yes, the equivalent of “blanket training”. Any book or person suggesting an active energetic toddler be left in a playpen to amuse themselves for up to an hour a day isn’t a good source of childcare information.

You are suggesting 1.5 hours out of an 8.5 hour workday be spent with one child sleeping and one child being made to play independently. That seems a tad excessive, and I’m a nanny, not a parent.


PP here. You’re right. Waaaaaay better to park them in front of a screen for an hour then to have them play independently with engaging toys.


No screens on my time. And I don’t dump 18 month olds into play pens for an hour and pretend they are getting all sorts of happy benefits from that isolation.

I’m sure you’d never believe that children of all ages can play independently without being put into a container, but it is possible. Maybe you have to cage your children because you never let them learn to play independently OUTSIDE of an isolation zone. Isolation leads to clingy behaviors, especially when kids are isolated during the separation anxiety phase.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 23:12     Subject: I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope she’s being paid well.



OP here. $27 an hour. And we love her. I hope that’s “well paid”.


Not for the DC area and for kids that young.

Please. It’s over $60k/year. That’s the going rate for a good nanny with two kids same family.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 23:06     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Nanny here who believes in sleep training/able to bring kids to a happy nap schedule. It's you who are bending to your child's will and offer reading books instead of nap, of course the child would learn to take advantage of you and have you reading to them even if his eyes are closing. Being there, done that. The ability to sleep train comes with years of experience and few nannies have patience and confidence to even attempt that, and 2,5 yr old still need a nap for all of his huge developmental needs, so pls consider that. They are just so happier when they take that nap. And, happy parents/caregivers are so much more fun.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 22:30     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:Institute independent playtime! If the 2.5 year old had an hour of independent playtime during 5 month old’s best nap, and 5 month old had 30 mins independent playtime during 2.5 naps, your nanny (and you!) would be much saner.

https://www.babywisemom.com/independent-playtime-overview/



That's a pretty abusive website. Babies have died from people following their advice. Any nanny worth their salt is going to feel so distressed by letting a baby cry to learn "independent play time" that it will be way worse.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 22:20     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.



Don’t do that, PP. Don’t try to put down another hard working nanny to make yourself look better (or do you hope). It just makes you look bad.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 22:18     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.



You “learnt” how to bend kids schedules only so you, as a nanny, get a break? You must be so proud.


Umm. I’m a parent and I do the same thing. Sanity for all is a reasonable goal.



Glad you learnt that too.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 21:54     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.



You “learnt” how to bend kids schedules only so you, as a nanny, get a break? You must be so proud.


Umm. I’m a parent and I do the same thing. Sanity for all is a reasonable goal.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 21:50     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.



You “learnt” how to bend kids schedules only so you, as a nanny, get a break? You must be so proud.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 21:20     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anonymous wrote:Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.



OP err. No, dear, neither our nanny nor DH and I have “a lot to learn”. Our 2.5 yr old doesn’t nap anymore and our baby takes very short naps. Nanny chooses to read to 2.5 yr old when the baby naps and so do we.

Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 20:42     Subject: Re:I don’t know what I can do about this...
Nanny has a lot to learn. I am a nanny and I learnt how to gradually adjust naps so that afternoon nap happens at the same time. With 5 month old, the first nap is probably 9-9:30 to 10:30 am, then they need about 2,5 hrs of play time, so the second nap would happen between 1-3:30ish, should would fine for 2,5 yr old. Don't see a problem, I do it with multiple kids all the time.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2021 20:32     Subject: I don’t know what I can do about this...
Anyone who says $27 per hour is not very well paid is crazy.

I would just empathize with your nanny. It’s a short period of time and then it gets much easier. Also, it’s a job… my job is pretty intense and I don’t really get any true breaks while I am working between 9-6. I eat at my desk while working, etc. sucks but it’s what it is.