Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:47
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Also the best inappropriate book series for 10 year old girls is the Alice books from Phyllis Reynolds Naylor. Hands down. And, set in Silver Spring! So maybe try to get her hooked on those instead.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:45
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do these authors produce this crap!?
Because it makes them lots of money. Some folks advocate that you let kids read what they want, regardless of content, because it is reading! Or parents see the books and think that they are just books and not a big deal. Different people have different tolerances.
This garbage can be avoided. There are so many wonderfully written classics.
But I can't force my daughter to only read THE SECRET GARDENS of the literary world. She wants to read what's relevant to her and her stage of life, which is exactly Dork Diaries unfortunately. I get her all the classics and she chooses not to read them.
-OP
The Secret Garden is FULL of bad behavior! It's a major theme! I love The Secret Garden, to be clear, but the reason it's a classic is that it tackles the big issues in a honest way that is still accessible for children.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:44
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
This happens to me when I binge watch shows. I start to talk like them/use similar humor.
It sounds like she's kind of processing them by acting them out. PP's suggestion of putting her in charge of controlling that is fine, but I might add a required "book club" with you. Read whichever one she is reading and discuss it in a non-sanctimonious way (like try to pretend you're really in book club together and make it fun). You're teaching her to process it without trying it out on her little brother. If it goes well but she hates "book club," you can drop it as the problem fades away.
Kids need literature that pushes their boundaries. Better books than some other sources.
It sounds like she's kind of processing them by acting them out. PP's suggestion of putting her in charge of controlling that is fine, but I might add a required "book club" with you. Read whichever one she is reading and discuss it in a non-sanctimonious way (like try to pretend you're really in book club together and make it fun). You're teaching her to process it without trying it out on her little brother. If it goes well but she hates "book club," you can drop it as the problem fades away.
Kids need literature that pushes their boundaries. Better books than some other sources.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:37
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When my DD was in kinder & 1st grade, the hot books were Junie B. Jones. And all the little girls reading them became super bratty, just like the main character. I told DD that these books were not good for her, and I would help her find books that wouldn't cause her to have bad behavior, because it wouldn't be fun if she got punished. And then we went to the library and did that.
Since your kid is 10, I would give her the choice. "Since you've been reading the Dork Diaries, your behavior has become unacceptable. You do A, B, and C, which I can tell you lift straight from these books. The Dork Diaries are a bad influence on you. I know you love them, so I am going to put you in control. If you can manage your behavior and stop doing A, B and C, then you can keep reading them. If you don't stop within two days, I am taking the books away, and we will find other books that are conducive to better behavior. Go think about what I said and let me know which direction you've chosen to go in."
Junior B Jones is the worst. Horrible grammar on top of the poor behavior.
Not a fan but my daughter loved these books in very early ES so I would have her identify the poor grammar and correct it.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:31
Subject: Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Absolutely makes a difference with us. I started checking the books about a year ago. Sometimes I asked where he learned this word or insult and it was a book. There are so many nicer books to read.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 14:27
Subject: Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Or it could be that she’s 10. My DD is 10 and we are dealing with a lot of attitude. I vent to friends who have kids the same age and they are going through similar. She’s not reading Dork Diaries. Her attitude appears similar to my older son in middle school. I think girls get the hormonal mood swings earlier.
Anonymous
07/05/2021 11:26
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do these authors produce this crap!?
Because it makes them lots of money. Some folks advocate that you let kids read what they want, regardless of content, because it is reading! Or parents see the books and think that they are just books and not a big deal. Different people have different tolerances.
This garbage can be avoided. There are so many wonderfully written classics.
But I can't force my daughter to only read THE SECRET GARDENS of the literary world. She wants to read what's relevant to her and her stage of life, which is exactly Dork Diaries unfortunately. I get her all the classics and she chooses not to read them.
-OP
Anonymous
06/24/2021 17:39
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why do these authors produce this crap!?
Because it makes them lots of money. Some folks advocate that you let kids read what they want, regardless of content, because it is reading! Or parents see the books and think that they are just books and not a big deal. Different people have different tolerances.
This garbage can be avoided. There are so many wonderfully written classics.
Anonymous
06/24/2021 10:56
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Read some Harry Potter fan fiction, there are lots of Draco and Voldemort fans out there, it is kind of weird.
I was not aware of that. That is weird
Yeah, the fan fiction is kind of eye opening. Kids are going to choose a character that they like and it might not be the character that they are supposed to like.
My daughter has always been drawn to the evil characters. I think it's genetic. She likes to go against the grain, not follow the crowd, fight the "rules", and she fantasizes a lot about being powerful and doing whatever she wants. She has a bit of an activist streak - she doesn't accept the status quo, she carries a lot of anger about unfairness or injustices. Honestly it's a pain in the butt sometimes but I also think it's kind of awesome and cool.
Anonymous
06/24/2021 01:11
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:When my DD was in kinder & 1st grade, the hot books were Junie B. Jones. And all the little girls reading them became super bratty, just like the main character. I told DD that these books were not good for her, and I would help her find books that wouldn't cause her to have bad behavior, because it wouldn't be fun if she got punished. And then we went to the library and did that.
Since your kid is 10, I would give her the choice. "Since you've been reading the Dork Diaries, your behavior has become unacceptable. You do A, B, and C, which I can tell you lift straight from these books. The Dork Diaries are a bad influence on you. I know you love them, so I am going to put you in control. If you can manage your behavior and stop doing A, B and C, then you can keep reading them. If you don't stop within two days, I am taking the books away, and we will find other books that are conducive to better behavior. Go think about what I said and let me know which direction you've chosen to go in."
+1
Anonymous
06/24/2021 00:58
Subject: Dork Diaries causing these issues?
When my now almost 12 year old was into some early chapter book that had a sassy character I did not love, I told her as much and said that the books were not a positive influence. Boy did I eat my words when she responded, “That is why the books are fun. They are characters and get to do things I would not.” Honestly, isn’t that what we all love about books?!?!
Anonymous
06/23/2021 18:09
Subject: Dork Diaries causing these issues?
My 10 year old was trying out “sarcastic” humor that she picked up from Percy Jackson type books (but it was just grating without being funny). I told her that type of humor works better in books and that she needs to make sure it doesn’t come across as just being mean.
My kids are know if they try out “bad language” from the books they read (stupid, idiot, etc), those books will be taken away.
My kids are know if they try out “bad language” from the books they read (stupid, idiot, etc), those books will be taken away.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 17:17
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Read some Harry Potter fan fiction, there are lots of Draco and Voldemort fans out there, it is kind of weird.
I was not aware of that. That is weird
Yeah, the fan fiction is kind of eye opening. Kids are going to choose a character that they like and it might not be the character that they are supposed to like.
Anonymous
06/23/2021 16:15
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Anonymous wrote:Read some Harry Potter fan fiction, there are lots of Draco and Voldemort fans out there, it is kind of weird.
I was not aware of that. That is weird
Anonymous
06/23/2021 15:20
Subject: Re:Dork Diaries causing these issues?
Read some Harry Potter fan fiction, there are lots of Draco and Voldemort fans out there, it is kind of weird.