Anonymous
Post 06/16/2021 00:52     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


This! Schools don't report these infractions and they leave it up to the student to report it (which kid with half a brain will self-report this?).

A few years ago, DC's friend had reported a cheating ring in her HS and wanted to incorporate that experience into her essays (how she chose values over friendship). Apparently everyone that advised her on the essays told her not to. Don't remember why (probably did not want to show their school in a bad light). Go figure!


Probably because no one likes a snitch.


Ikr, “yeah, I threw my friends under the bus because I have so much moral integrity” lol
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2021 00:45     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


This! Schools don't report these infractions and they leave it up to the student to report it (which kid with half a brain will self-report this?).

A few years ago, DC's friend had reported a cheating ring in her HS and wanted to incorporate that experience into her essays (how she chose values over friendship). Apparently everyone that advised her on the essays told her not to. Don't remember why (probably did not want to show their school in a bad light). Go figure!


Probably because no one likes a snitch.
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2021 00:12     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


Who are you to judge? If he was able to coordinate a cheating effort, he's showing intelligence, leadership and managerial skills. You also don't know what his family contributes to the top-10 college.

OP's committed a cardinal sin, not knowing whether the cheating thing stayed with the teacher or whether it was reported. Normally I'd say the student never should have admitted to cheating, but if the teacher had him dead to rights then admitting it in exchange for keeping it within the classroom makes sense.

Ideally, it never would have come to any of this. The parents would have known the kid was in trouble. They would have had tutoring in place. They would have donated so much to the school that the teacher would get the rug pulled out from under him if he pushed the student.

But you live and learn. Given the mistakes OP and OP's kid made, this isn't the worst outcome so long as they know the cheating stays with the teacher, and OP's kid keeps his mouth shut in applications and interviews.


You seem all worked up. Was it your son the PPP was talking about?
Anonymous
Post 06/16/2021 00:07     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


This! Schools don't report these infractions and they leave it up to the student to report it (which kid with half a brain will self-report this?).

A few years ago, DC's friend had reported a cheating ring in her HS and wanted to incorporate that experience into her essays (how she chose values over friendship). Apparently everyone that advised her on the essays told her not to. Don't remember why (probably did not want to show their school in a bad light). Go figure!
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 23:16     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


Who are you to judge? If he was able to coordinate a cheating effort, he's showing intelligence, leadership and managerial skills. You also don't know what his family contributes to the top-10 college.

OP's committed a cardinal sin, not knowing whether the cheating thing stayed with the teacher or whether it was reported. Normally I'd say the student never should have admitted to cheating, but if the teacher had him dead to rights then admitting it in exchange for keeping it within the classroom makes sense.

Ideally, it never would have come to any of this. The parents would have known the kid was in trouble. They would have had tutoring in place. They would have donated so much to the school that the teacher would get the rug pulled out from under him if he pushed the student.

But you live and learn. Given the mistakes OP and OP's kid made, this isn't the worst outcome so long as they know the cheating stays with the teacher, and OP's kid keeps his mouth shut in applications and interviews.


This may be the craziest poster on a thread that has taken a nosedive.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 23:09     Subject: Re:HS Cheating and college admission
^ PP would also be the one blaming his spouse when he cheats on her - and it’s pretty much guaranteed that he cheats on her. Seriously deficient in character.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 20:01     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:I doubt it is on the record. School could get sued.

I honestly cheated on tests around 50-100 times. From elementary through HS. Got caught maybe 3-5 times.

Never went beyond zero in a test. Although one teacher on purpose refused to fail me for Geometry to teach me a lesson. Gave me incomplete which automatically put me in summer school in non AC HS three miles away and I had to ride my bike everyday as parents working.

I got an 86. In retrospect I cheated cause some teachers suck. I don’t recall me cheating ever on a good teacher. The summer school teacher was so much better.

I blame the teachers not the kids


Not just a cheater…
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 17:20     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


I blame the school, and the teachers who agreed to write him a recommendation.

You parents who are all acting like your kid's lawyers are sad. But I guess tomorrow's corrupt officials and tax cheats have to come from somewhere. I hear that Trump might be looking for some new employees in his organization soon (because so many of the corporate officials will be in prison). You sound like you would fit right in there.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 17:17     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:I doubt it is on the record. School could get sued.

I honestly cheated on tests around 50-100 times. From elementary through HS. Got caught maybe 3-5 times.

Never went beyond zero in a test. Although one teacher on purpose refused to fail me for Geometry to teach me a lesson. Gave me incomplete which automatically put me in summer school in non AC HS three miles away and I had to ride my bike everyday as parents working.

I got an 86. In retrospect I cheated cause some teachers suck. I don’t recall me cheating ever on a good teacher. The summer school teacher was so much better.

I blame the teachers not the kids


Wow. You sound like a wreck. Cheated your way through school, and blame that behavior on someone else. Can you imagine what your reputation must be? Who would want to write you a recommendation.

I am sorry that no one gave you a moral compass. Or sense of responsibility for your own actions.
Anonymous
Post 06/15/2021 16:56     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.


Who are you to judge? If he was able to coordinate a cheating effort, he's showing intelligence, leadership and managerial skills. You also don't know what his family contributes to the top-10 college.

OP's committed a cardinal sin, not knowing whether the cheating thing stayed with the teacher or whether it was reported. Normally I'd say the student never should have admitted to cheating, but if the teacher had him dead to rights then admitting it in exchange for keeping it within the classroom makes sense.

Ideally, it never would have come to any of this. The parents would have known the kid was in trouble. They would have had tutoring in place. They would have donated so much to the school that the teacher would get the rug pulled out from under him if he pushed the student.

But you live and learn. Given the mistakes OP and OP's kid made, this isn't the worst outcome so long as they know the cheating stays with the teacher, and OP's kid keeps his mouth shut in applications and interviews.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:27     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Common App asks the student to disclose this and gives space to explain. I think the key is to explain that a lesson was learned and not to blame others for getting caught.


The key is to admit nothing and make them prove something they probably can’t


Not answering the question honestly is a current infraction as opposed to a two year old mistake.


they should have kept their mouth shut when the teacher accused them. Make the teacher prove it
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:24     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
A student at my child's HS was caught in a major cheating incident that he coordinated. He goes to a top 10 college (probably #1 in his field). Not the way it should be but reality.
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 14:17     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
I doubt it is on the record. School could get sued.

I honestly cheated on tests around 50-100 times. From elementary through HS. Got caught maybe 3-5 times.

Never went beyond zero in a test. Although one teacher on purpose refused to fail me for Geometry to teach me a lesson. Gave me incomplete which automatically put me in summer school in non AC HS three miles away and I had to ride my bike everyday as parents working.

I got an 86. In retrospect I cheated cause some teachers suck. I don’t recall me cheating ever on a good teacher. The summer school teacher was so much better.

I blame the teachers not the kids
Anonymous
Post 06/07/2021 13:34     Subject: Re:HS Cheating and college admission
The common app and the coalition app are removing the questions about infractions and suspensions. They felt that minority students generally received more stringent punishments and were then less likely to apply to college because they were concerned about the impact on their application. In fact, I think coalition app has already removed this question for 2021 and common app has announced it will be taken off for next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2021 14:21     Subject: HS Cheating and college admission
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Common App asks the student to disclose this and gives space to explain. I think the key is to explain that a lesson was learned and not to blame others for getting caught.


The key is to admit nothing and make them prove something they probably can’t


Not answering the question honestly is a current infraction as opposed to a two year old mistake.


And teaching your child that they can lie and/or cheat if there is not a chance of getting caught.

You PP obviously did not learn the lesson OP's child claims to have learned.