Anonymous wrote:

Nova2Euro wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nova2Euro wrote:Of course coaches have biases--usually biases towards certain systems of play and the types of players that best suit them. Which is exactly the point I was making: if your kid isn't a good fit with a particular coach and his/her biases and therefore gets bumped off the team, there's not much hope of earning your way back onto the team and it's best, if you want to continue to progress in competitive football, to move on.

This is true at all levels up to professional. You will not change the coach's mind. Find a coach that values what the player brings to the field.

Coaches are supposed to be teaching the game, but yes this proves my point. Most coaches here don't teach the game, only the way they played it.

Is it such a strange concept to you that some coaches work better with some players? It's the same with teachers, professors, bosses, everyone. I guess the difference is that you don't have as much control over your choice when it comes to teachers as you do with coaches. If a particular coach isn't working for your kid, count down the months and then move on.

Not the pp but I have seen good soccer players demoted for not so good soccer players. The thing is the not so good soccer player fits the coach’s or club’s system. You see this a lot at big clubs that lock players in positions early- ie u10/11 you are locked in at defender and will only play that position. The demoted player is a good player but at the wrong club with the wrong coach and maybe the wrong position. You should always look for a new club if you are demoted or feel your kid does not fit the system or style of play. There are a lot of kids who do not fit one club but would be a great fit at another.

Also remember a lot of the parents telling you this coach or club is great is because the coach and club picked their kid. So always make your own evaluation and if you have misgivings move on down the road to the next club.

Nova2Euro wrote:A lot of this can be tied to the coach, too. A players whose qualities might not be a great fit for one coach might benefit from a fresh look by a new coach.

But realistically, by the time a player is 15 or 16, unless there's a massive physical change (and these do sometimes happen later), if a club has seen them for at least a year and there's not a coaching change, you need to decide whether you're happy with the lower-level team or whether it's time to move on. But if your kid really believes in him/herself, and you believe in them and want to keep progressing in football, then go somewhere else. For so many reasons, it's better to be on the top team in the club in a lower-level league.

Anonymous wrote:Only if they switch clubs. Player has now been identified as "b" level and stigmatized. It would be extremely rare for any upwards movement on more then an occasional basis.

Nova2Euro wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nova2Euro wrote:Of course coaches have biases--usually biases towards certain systems of play and the types of players that best suit them. Which is exactly the point I was making: if your kid isn't a good fit with a particular coach and his/her biases and therefore gets bumped off the team, there's not much hope of earning your way back onto the team and it's best, if you want to continue to progress in competitive football, to move on.

This is true at all levels up to professional. You will not change the coach's mind. Find a coach that values what the player brings to the field.

Coaches are supposed to be teaching the game, but yes this proves my point. Most coaches here don't teach the game, only the way they played it.

Is it such a strange concept to you that some coaches work better with some players? It's the same with teachers, professors, bosses, everyone. I guess the difference is that you don't have as much control over your choice when it comes to teachers as you do with coaches. If a particular coach isn't working for your kid, count down the months and then move on.

Anonymous wrote:

Nova2Euro wrote:Of course coaches have biases--usually biases towards certain systems of play and the types of players that best suit them. Which is exactly the point I was making: if your kid isn't a good fit with a particular coach and his/her biases and therefore gets bumped off the team, there's not much hope of earning your way back onto the team and it's best, if you want to continue to progress in competitive football, to move on.

This is true at all levels up to professional. You will not change the coach's mind. Find a coach that values what the player brings to the field.

Coaches are supposed to be teaching the game, but yes this proves my point. Most coaches here don't teach the game, only the way they played it.

Nova2Euro wrote:Of course coaches have biases--usually biases towards certain systems of play and the types of players that best suit them. Which is exactly the point I was making: if your kid isn't a good fit with a particular coach and his/her biases and therefore gets bumped off the team, there's not much hope of earning your way back onto the team and it's best, if you want to continue to progress in competitive football, to move on.

This is true at all levels up to professional. You will not change the coach's mind. Find a coach that values what the player brings to the field.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked to move my son down because he was basically riding the bench on his higher team. On his current team (U15) he played most of every match. It made a lot more sense for us to play on the lower team because he needed match experience - no point being on the best team but not contributing anything. We only planned to do it for one year and then find either another club or try to move back up but the pandemic. This year, he was offered top teams for a number of clubs.

Lol. It made sense for usto play? Are you on the team too?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked to move my son down because he was basically riding the bench on his higher team. On his current team (U15) he played most of every match. It made a lot more sense for us to play on the lower team because he needed match experience - no point being on the best team but not contributing anything. We only planned to do it for one year and then find either another club or try to move back up but the pandemic. This year, he was offered top teams for a number of clubs.

Lol. It made sense for usto play? Are you on the team too?

There is no need to be so snarky and critical. PP probably referred to the decision as the family decision, because the kid is a teenager.