Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 16:44     Subject: Re:What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
And mine left because of not playing. On the smaller side, great skills and speed and lots of assists and goals, but overall not big enough to win balls from players over a head taller and 50 percent heavier.


Not playing is a good reason to leave, but you don't necessarily need to be big to win balls from taller players. My son is 25th percentile in height and weight, and can win them. You just need to find a way to win them that doesn't involve direct shouldering off, which I agree is unlikely to work.


My son is on the taller side and does enough shouldering but doesn't win balls. Size sometimes doesn't matter. Skills do.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 16:36     Subject: Re:What are you weighing? What did you decide?

And mine left because of not playing. On the smaller side, great skills and speed and lots of assists and goals, but overall not big enough to win balls from players over a head taller and 50 percent heavier.


Not playing is a good reason to leave, but you don't necessarily need to be big to win balls from taller players. My son is 25th percentile in height and weight, and can win them. You just need to find a way to win them that doesn't involve direct shouldering off, which I agree is unlikely to work.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 16:20     Subject: Re:What are you weighing? What did you decide?

So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


Wow, I am the person who posted that, and this discussion has gone south. When the other players on your team have trouble moving to and receiving the ball, it is a frustating experience. He plays with a different club for futsal, and was one of the middle of the pack players on that team, and seemed to be having a much better time (and his skills seemed to improve more too).
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 14:24     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


If you're the best player on the field, you're on the wrong field. Same thing with smarts in the classroom. Hard to fly like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. Not everybody wants to be a frontrunner, believe it or not.


Our kids tended to rise with the level around them. Players can actually look worse when playing for a team below their level. The teammates don't have the tactical awareness (don't anticipate passes or make the correct runs or cover/know how to shift), bad first touch and the overall play is slower. I have been amazed when I watch my kid in games with current team and training scrimmages with team at a higher level. He dominates at the higher level....and he looks so much faster.

There sometimes is a fallacy about good players and not creating challenge for them.


My kid didn't get looked at his Club for top team. They seriously would not even allow the 2nd team on the tryout field with the top team for winter or for the following year. The kid then made and ECNL/Mlsnxt team a year group above and a winter team 2 years above.

He's 15 and when he was playing with the 17/18 year olds he was phenomenal...and they embraced him.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 14:16     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


If you're the best player on the field, you're on the wrong field. Same thing with smarts in the classroom. Hard to fly like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. Not everybody wants to be a frontrunner, believe it or not.


Our kids tended to rise with the level around them. Players can actually look worse when playing for a team below their level. The teammates don't have the tactical awareness (don't anticipate passes or make the correct runs or cover/know how to shift), bad first touch and the overall play is slower. I have been amazed when I watch my kid in games with current team and training scrimmages with team at a higher level. He dominates at the higher level....and he looks so much faster.

There sometimes is a fallacy about good players and not creating challenge for them.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 14:08     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:Still waiting on the offer as returning player. Nail biter.


Same. x2. It's stressful. Hope all works out the way your kid(s) are hoping, PP!
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2021 10:27     Subject: Re:What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:185. Keto.


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Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 14:05     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


If you're the best player on the field, you're on the wrong field. Same thing with smarts in the classroom. Hard to fly like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys. Not everybody wants to be a frontrunner, believe it or not.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 14:02     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


Dumb. Anybody who is really good (1) wants to play on the best team, not be the best on an average team, and (2) does not want the burden of scoring all of the goals for a losing team, because the question is, why didn’t Leo score more, not where on earth would be without Leo.

I am going to be kind and assume your kids play defensive positions, so this might not have occurred to you. No, wait a minute, I changed my mind. You are just dumb.


OR maybe not .... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2713937-the-christian-pulisic-blueprint ...

Christian spurned the academy team of the Philadelphia Union, a unit consistently more talent-laden and successful than the PA Classics.

"When you are the best player on your team but your team is not as good, it means you handle the ball more, you have to do more to carry your team and in the process, you are developing your game," says Richie Williams, an assistant coach with the U.S. men's national team who coached Christian, then 15, at the U17 residency program in Bradenton and in the 2015 U17 World Cup. "If it is a loaded team, that same player might be identified as a role player and never develop those skills."

Christian called the PA Classics "a good platform to excel," in part because he wasn't treated as more special than other kids. "It allowed me to develop as a normal player," he wrote.


Bad example, PA Classics was a DA club so his choice was between two DA clubs. It is like choosing between Bethesda and DCU. Either way, you will end up playing on a high level team by American standards.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 09:34     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter decided to leave her club this year. Even though she had close friends and liked the team, she was frustrated because the other players were not able to play at the level she wants. Yes she scored the most goals and liked that but not all of the team is as competitive or taking training as seriously as she does.


Did she play up top? Did she play defense, at all? Sounds like a Prima Donna to me. Good riddance.


Actually she plays mid and center back. She wants to build out of the back like they learn in practice but there aren’t enough players on the team capable of receiving and making the passes without losing the ball. Up front would be a more natural position for her but coach and she would rather have her back to stop goals to keep games more competitive. Sometimes teams and players don’t develop equally and it becomes necessary to change teams. We’re talking about 11 year olds where separation tends to start for girls.

You seem like a real Prima Donna parent. I’m sure the other parents would love to get rid of you


11 year olds. Yep. You confirmed you’re typical of an over involved parent at that age. Always want their kid to play up top, complain about her teammates, where the coach puts her, etc. Your kid’s old team will be happier without you. Seen and heard it many times before. Best of luck finding your happy place. Truly.


Yep. You confirmed you know nothing about our family or situation. My daughter initiated to change. She wasn’t happy playing on the team anymore. The club only has 1 team at her age group. It’s a mixed age group because they don’t have enough players her age to form a team. The next age group up has the same situation and she also plays with that team to give her a challenge. I don’t want her doing that. I want her to play with players her own age who have similar levels of ability and commitment to the team.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 09:11     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter decided to leave her club this year. Even though she had close friends and liked the team, she was frustrated because the other players were not able to play at the level she wants. Yes she scored the most goals and liked that but not all of the team is as competitive or taking training as seriously as she does.


Did she play up top? Did she play defense, at all? Sounds like a Prima Donna to me. Good riddance.


Actually she plays mid and center back. She wants to build out of the back like they learn in practice but there aren’t enough players on the team capable of receiving and making the passes without losing the ball. Up front would be a more natural position for her but coach and she would rather have her back to stop goals to keep games more competitive. Sometimes teams and players don’t develop equally and it becomes necessary to change teams. We’re talking about 11 year olds where separation tends to start for girls.

You seem like a real Prima Donna parent. I’m sure the other parents would love to get rid of you


11 year olds. Yep. You confirmed you’re typical of an over involved parent at that age. Always want their kid to play up top, complain about her teammates, where the coach puts her, etc. Your kid’s old team will be happier without you. Seen and heard it many times before. Best of luck finding your happy place. Truly.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 09:08     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So he wants to suck?
No offense but sounds fishy to me—how many parents have kids who don’t want to be one of the better players on their team?


Dumb. Anybody who is really good (1) wants to play on the best team, not be the best on an average team, and (2) does not want the burden of scoring all of the goals for a losing team, because the question is, why didn’t Leo score more, not where on earth would be without Leo.

I am going to be kind and assume your kids play defensive positions, so this might not have occurred to you. No, wait a minute, I changed my mind. You are just dumb.


You’re dumb. In addition to the Pulisic example, look at Landon Donovan’s pro path choice. He preferred to be a big fish (best) in a smaller (weaker) pond. You are speaking in absolutes which is arrogant and dumb.


Not PP, but for the example to ring more true, your coach needs to play you in certain roles, with a minimum level of support from teammates. I don't think those 2 examples suffer from lack of basic fundamentals, unreasonably slow decision making, and overall poor coaching decisions. I think we’ve all seen that team with little to no possession, scrambling to survive the 90. Thats likely not the team pulisic or donovan were on.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 08:44     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter decided to leave her club this year. Even though she had close friends and liked the team, she was frustrated because the other players were not able to play at the level she wants. Yes she scored the most goals and liked that but not all of the team is as competitive or taking training as seriously as she does.


Did she play up top? Did she play defense, at all? Sounds like a Prima Donna to me. Good riddance.


Actually she plays mid and center back. She wants to build out of the back like they learn in practice but there aren’t enough players on the team capable of receiving and making the passes without losing the ball. Up front would be a more natural position for her but coach and she would rather have her back to stop goals to keep games more competitive. Sometimes teams and players don’t develop equally and it becomes necessary to change teams. We’re talking about 11 year olds where separation tends to start for girls.

You seem like a real Prima Donna parent. I’m sure the other parents would love to get rid of you
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 08:09     Subject: What are you weighing? What did you decide?

My ds is a top player on an average team and looking to move to a new team at a higher play. I think that he will develop more skills playing with them. He will probably be in the bottom 2-3 talent wise but is very young, a quick learner and should continue to improve.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2021 07:56     Subject: Re:What are you weighing? What did you decide?

Everybody has their own path on this journey. Every choice you make youre left with what ifs. I believe sometimes you got to say F it lets go its a new experience. Dont look back there's a reason the windshield is bigger than your rear window.