Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:31     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.


Yup, and also because he thinks that outside players are viewed more favorably that current players of the club. The latter part makes sense from a $ standpoint.


It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.


Not the PP - but separate the coach from the club here. Imagine the coach is a good guy trying to help the kid, and prepared to go against the financial interest of the club to do so. "The club" is the bad guy here - not willing to give a deserving player a spot on the roster for the top team next year because they'd rather give that spot to a new incoming player in order to increase revenue. Then the story makes sense.


No, if the club is making enough money, they will move the kid up if he/she is talented enough to help them win. Winning brings players and THAT makes money. So sounds to me like the kid just isn't making the cut and for some reason, instead of recommending private lessons they are telling the kid to leave for (maybe but how would they really know) better training. Nah.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:27     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.


Yup, and also because he thinks that outside players are viewed more favorably that current players of the club. The latter part makes sense from a $ standpoint.


It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.


Not the PP - but separate the coach from the club here. Imagine the coach is a good guy trying to help the kid, and prepared to go against the financial interest of the club to do so. "The club" is the bad guy here - not willing to give a deserving player a spot on the roster for the top team next year because they'd rather give that spot to a new incoming player in order to increase revenue. Then the story makes sense.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:27     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.


any club that makes cuts does not loose money if a kid moves on, it just makes 1 fewer cut


Yeah, they are not going to lose money.


No coach is telling their kid (if they are even 1/2 way decent) to train at a competitors club. Unless the coach hates the club he/she is working for.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:25     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.


any club that makes cuts does not loose money if a kid moves on, it just makes 1 fewer cut


Yeah, they are not going to lose money.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:23     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.


Yup, and also because he thinks that outside players are viewed more favorably that current players of the club. The latter part makes sense from a $ standpoint.


It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.


any club that makes cuts does not loose money if a kid moves on, it just makes 1 fewer cut
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:21     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.


Yup, and also because he thinks that outside players are viewed more favorably that current players of the club. The latter part makes sense from a $ standpoint.


It absolutely does not. The club loses revenue cuz the kid leaves and they bank on him coming back...why? That's a stupid financial move. IF (and that's a big if) he is getting better training, why would he come back to a 2nd rate team? Or if he's trying to make top team, doesn't mean he improves all that much at Arlington if he hasn't done so already. I mean this smells buddy. Maybe they just want to get rid of the parents...lol.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:12     Subject: Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

I didn't understand that South County alliance thing. No information was provided. Very odd.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:10     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.


Yup, and also because he thinks that outside players are viewed more favorably that current players of the club. The latter part makes sense from a $ standpoint.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:05     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).


That may be the stupidest thing Ive ever heard. A coach is sending your kid to another club to get coached better so he can come back to the old club with better skills so he can move up a level? What??? That does not sound right at all. Snort.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:03     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:08 offers started couple of weeks ago.


Can you elaborate? Are you talking about ECNL or also for red? I knew ECNL invites went out a while ago, but I thought red team invites weren't going out until after last week's tryouts.


The chatter is some ECNL players are being dropped to Red. They will have till Arlington makes their official invites for the rest of the age group(excluding ECNL) but anyone pushed down is pressured to commit before the official announcement. They have a ton of interest and want to get outside players in. Also GA, White and Blue are in Covid lockdown. So I do not know how that will work for tryouts at other clubs but I image it will make it hard for any Arlington player caught by surprise.


I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


We are leaving Arlington and moving to a top team with a competitor. The player development mantra is a facade. You talk your way up here.


What age group? Looking at making a move to Arlington curious about the culture.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 16:00     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


I donpt know that it does in the sense that PP means loyalty, but my son is neither the best of the worst on his team (non-Arlington). He is moving to Arlington because his current coach thinks he will be viewed as a better prospect by the club that he currently plays with in the future if he plays for Arlington for a year. To me, that seems like disloyalty (viewing someone more favorably because they went elsewhere).
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 15:47     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:08 offers started couple of weeks ago.


Can you elaborate? Are you talking about ECNL or also for red? I knew ECNL invites went out a while ago, but I thought red team invites weren't going out until after last week's tryouts.


The chatter is some ECNL players are being dropped to Red. They will have till Arlington makes their official invites for the rest of the age group(excluding ECNL) but anyone pushed down is pressured to commit before the official announcement. They have a ton of interest and want to get outside players in. Also GA, White and Blue are in Covid lockdown. So I do not know how that will work for tryouts at other clubs but I image it will make it hard for any Arlington player caught by surprise.


I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


In competitive sports, you talking loyalty means either you are the best or, you are the worst in the team. Most times, the latter.


Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 15:18     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:08 offers started couple of weeks ago.


Can you elaborate? Are you talking about ECNL or also for red? I knew ECNL invites went out a while ago, but I thought red team invites weren't going out until after last week's tryouts.


The chatter is some ECNL players are being dropped to Red. They will have till Arlington makes their official invites for the rest of the age group(excluding ECNL) but anyone pushed down is pressured to commit before the official announcement. They have a ton of interest and want to get outside players in. Also GA, White and Blue are in Covid lockdown. So I do not know how that will work for tryouts at other clubs but I image it will make it hard for any Arlington player caught by surprise.


I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.


We are leaving Arlington and moving to a top team with a competitor. The player development mantra is a facade. You talk your way up here.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 15:06     Subject: Re:Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:08 offers started couple of weeks ago.


Can you elaborate? Are you talking about ECNL or also for red? I knew ECNL invites went out a while ago, but I thought red team invites weren't going out until after last week's tryouts.


The chatter is some ECNL players are being dropped to Red. They will have till Arlington makes their official invites for the rest of the age group(excluding ECNL) but anyone pushed down is pressured to commit before the official announcement. They have a ton of interest and want to get outside players in. Also GA, White and Blue are in Covid lockdown. So I do not know how that will work for tryouts at other clubs but I image it will make it hard for any Arlington player caught by surprise.


I expect that players that were asked to move down will leave the club. No point in staying at the club that showed no loyalty, when they can get a spot on a top team for one of their competitors.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2021 14:14     Subject: Arlington ECNL and Red Team movement

Anonymous wrote:Are any South County players making it onto the Arlington ECNL rosters? Will those two clubs be merging?


SOCO player here. No news regarding Arlington nor were we invited to participate in any Arlington tryouts. Sounds like it was a marketing ploy and poorly done.