Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:41     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:If you are looking at cheap properties like that one, then you should expect cheap finishes. The flippers need to keep the costs down somehow.


I personally am fine with cheap finishes or less renovated but wood floors.

This is fine (outside beltway)
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Springfield/8303-Cushing-Ct-22153/home/9805684

This fine too (can deal with carpet, older home, over cheap LVP)
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Springfield/8292-Lindside-Way-22153/home/9808260

And this also is fine:
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/3816-Pinewood-Ter-22041/home/9650883
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:40     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with LVT in a true basement - in fact, I have LVT in my basement. However, whenever I see home flips like this, it's an immediate "no" for me. I understand a split level kinda makes the main floor basement-ish, but I just HATE the look AND feel of luxury vinyl plank flooring for the main living areas, kitchen area. Ugh! Wood floors, tile in the kitchen if you must, but no luxury vinyl plank in main living areas.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Springfield/7419-Jervis-St-22151/home/9720630

Anyone else? I keep seeing this trend in listings.


Should've put in money for curb appeal instead.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:39     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Agreed. But that animal skin is cool. Where do I send the check?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:36     Subject: Re:Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:Here's a house with real wood. It costs $2 million more than your price range though.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/McLean/1430-Waggaman-Cir-22101/home/9392258



It's in Mclean, not Springfield, this isn't a comparison
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:36     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
LVP reeks to me! Vinyl is not good for your health. Trust.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:33     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with LVT in a true basement - in fact, I have LVT in my basement. However, whenever I see home flips like this, it's an immediate "no" for me. I understand a split level kinda makes the main floor basement-ish, but I just HATE the look AND feel of luxury vinyl plank flooring for the main living areas, kitchen area. Ugh! Wood floors, tile in the kitchen if you must, but no luxury vinyl plank in main living areas.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/Springfield/7419-Jervis-St-22151/home/9720630

Anyone else? I keep seeing this trend in listings.


Its not a trend. Its a price range.

You're not getting real hardwood for a $600K house in this area. Period.


I hate to break it to you but many new builds even in the $1m+ range are being built with LVP. Just look at the Mt Prospect/TB thread - loads of people opting for LVP. The reality is that folks would rather put that money into something else and still have a floor that looks nice, is affordable and most importantly, durable. I think OP's house for reference has LVP that doesn't look great - there are LVP that look nicer.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:33     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
I toured that home, and it is AWFUL. I would NEVER purchase it, even if it was the only house on the market, and it has nothing to do with the floors (which I hate).

Terrible flip in every way.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:33     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
I don’t like it when the floors don’t match.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:30     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LVP is appropriate at that price point.


+1. That is a cheap starter home. The original hardwoods must have been a mess, though maybe it was all carpet originally.


We rented a house down the street a few years ago. The main levels were all hideous parquet floor tiles. I don’t love this look, but it’s way better than what it was before.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:27     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:I like LVP and think it's definitely appropriate in this price range. Also great for townhouses and condos. My condo had a concrete floor so my options were engineered hardwood or LVP. Tile is too hard for my plantar fasciitis. Just visiting my parents for a week on their tile floors makes my heels hurt. And tile is cold!

What I hate about LVP is that most of the options are gray or grayish weathered looking wood. No! Just get regular wood colors. I love the LVP in my basement. My kids can beat it up and it looks great. Can't say the same for my hardwoods on my 1st floor.


I'm considering LVP for my new-build's second floor. That or stone. I don't mind the cold floors - live in a climate where that would be beneficial. I'm trending towards stone because the LVP ime gets easily nicked, chipped or raised if its soaked or there's friction from furniture.

Whereas the hardwoods I've had just scratch up like crazy and have to be polished/refinished every 5 years or so. Thoughts?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:25     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
This style of LVP is so wrong for a 1950/1960s style split, which is the biggest problem. It will never look right in a house like this so I imagine it will be gone within ten years.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:23     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
I like LVP and think it's definitely appropriate in this price range. Also great for townhouses and condos. My condo had a concrete floor so my options were engineered hardwood or LVP. Tile is too hard for my plantar fasciitis. Just visiting my parents for a week on their tile floors makes my heels hurt. And tile is cold!

What I hate about LVP is that most of the options are gray or grayish weathered looking wood. No! Just get regular wood colors. I love the LVP in my basement. My kids can beat it up and it looks great. Can't say the same for my hardwoods on my 1st floor.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:22     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
If you are looking at cheap properties like that one, then you should expect cheap finishes. The flippers need to keep the costs down somehow.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:16     Subject: Re:Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Here's a house with real wood. It costs $2 million more than your price range though.

https://www.redfin.com/VA/McLean/1430-Waggaman-Cir-22101/home/9392258

Anonymous
Post 05/17/2021 10:16     Subject: Developers, home flippers - please stop with the luxury vinyl planks on main levels
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:LVP is appropriate at that price point.


+1. That is a cheap starter home. The original hardwoods must have been a mess, though maybe it was all carpet originally.


Here's the thing - I'd rather purchase a home with just the carpet replaced and everything else updated then LVP.


Would also rather cheap finishes and nicer floors. Can update finishes easily while living there. Replacing flooring is a PITA.


I think you're in the minority, an the fixtures in that house aren't exactly high end either. Are you going to drop down to formica countertops and a vinyl shower enclosure in order to get hardwood?