Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:19     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.


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Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:18     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable


Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.


And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.


I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.


You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?


You should really direct your outrage at the profiteering of corporate America & CEOs -- hair stylists are small potatoes in the scheme of things.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:18     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
The anger about paying a talented worker for their services from a bunch of people who bill or who have spouse's who bill $300+ an hour is impressive.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:17     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
15-20% minimum

Shampoo, $5-10.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:16     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable


Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.


And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.


I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.


You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?


Why are you the arbiter of "what is enough" for stylists to make? If you don't like the price - don't buy it, honey!
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:15     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
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Anonymous wrote:I tip 20% but honestly I've never been that happy with it. My stylist is a really highly trained professional--I think she's paid pretty well paid to start with so giving her an additional $60 for 90 minutes work (when she's seeing other customers while I process) seems like a lot. Based on her clothes, her vacations and the house she bought, I don't think she's particularly hurting for money. OTOH, I get that she doesn't genearally get paid during closures (like the pandemic) and also probably doesn't get a pension or even 401k.

I'm never really sure what the tip the shampoo person. What do people think about that?


Tip the shampoo person - $5 at minimum. If you really like them, up to $20.


What for???? Because they’re underpaid? Are salons run like sweat shops? Why can’t salons just pay their shampoo people $15 an hour? This thread is why I avoid hair salons. Everyone has their hand out and prices are already high enough to cover the service.


What for? Because we live in a tipping culture. If you are too cheap or outraged to tip someone $5, then you should keep avoiding hair salons. It's not the employees' fault that the system is what it is - work to change the law but don't punish these people with your penny-pinching outrage.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:14     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
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Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable


Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.


And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.


I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.


You just described most jobs. Is $50 -$100 an hour not enough for cutting hair?
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:12     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I tip 20% but honestly I've never been that happy with it. My stylist is a really highly trained professional--I think she's paid pretty well paid to start with so giving her an additional $60 for 90 minutes work (when she's seeing other customers while I process) seems like a lot. Based on her clothes, her vacations and the house she bought, I don't think she's particularly hurting for money. OTOH, I get that she doesn't genearally get paid during closures (like the pandemic) and also probably doesn't get a pension or even 401k.

I'm never really sure what the tip the shampoo person. What do people think about that?


Tip the shampoo person - $5 at minimum. If you really like them, up to $20.


What for???? Because they’re underpaid? Are salons run like sweat shops? Why can’t salons just pay their shampoo people $15 an hour? This thread is why I avoid hair salons. Everyone has their hand out and prices are already high enough to cover the service.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:10     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable


Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.


And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.


I thought in addition to salons taking half (or more), the stylist also has to pay to rent the chair?

Why is everyone begrudging stylists a good income? They are on their feet all day, basically independent contractors, have to deal with ups and downs in demand (not a steady income month to month) and it must be tough job dealing with people every day (esp people like the ones who post on this board). Sheesh.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:09     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:To add -- my salon requires tips be in cash, so I also see this as pretty likely tax fraud. She probably makes 60K a year in cash that it basically under the table. It's just a way for the salons to shift money away from the Social Security Administration and the general tax revenue.


Yeah, which is also not customer friendly. I have to tip $80 on a $400 service AND go to the ATM or get cash back somewhere before I arrive? Who is serving who?
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:07     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No. You are already paying for their skill, time, and product. I would not tip an extra $60 plus for 2 hrs of service. I would leave a $20-30 tip. Servers are making $3/hr, food service in a restaurant is not comparable


Wrong! They could have had 4 customers in those 2 hours and would have made way more than $20-$30 in tips! I would not keep you as a client if you used my time and tipped that way.


And you work two customers at a time. If the salon takes 50%, you are still making nearly $600 in the OP example. If it takes you three hours, you’re making $200 an hour.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:07     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:To add -- my salon requires tips be in cash, so I also see this as pretty likely tax fraud. She probably makes 60K a year in cash that it basically under the table. It's just a way for the salons to shift money away from the Social Security Administration and the general tax revenue.


That’s not your problem, and she’s more likely to get audited. They will imply tips.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:05     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
To add -- my salon requires tips be in cash, so I also see this as pretty likely tax fraud. She probably makes 60K a year in cash that it basically under the table. It's just a way for the salons to shift money away from the Social Security Administration and the general tax revenue.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:04     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
No, you are supposed to tip 20%.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2021 13:04     Subject: Tipping for expensive salon visits
Anonymous wrote:I tip 20% but honestly I've never been that happy with it. My stylist is a really highly trained professional--I think she's paid pretty well paid to start with so giving her an additional $60 for 90 minutes work (when she's seeing other customers while I process) seems like a lot. Based on her clothes, her vacations and the house she bought, I don't think she's particularly hurting for money. OTOH, I get that she doesn't genearally get paid during closures (like the pandemic) and also probably doesn't get a pension or even 401k.

I'm never really sure what the tip the shampoo person. What do people think about that?


Tip the shampoo person - $5 at minimum. If you really like them, up to $20.