Anonymous
05/05/2021 13:22
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Compare Texas to DMV. Masks and other protocols (including vaccines) work.
Texas — 9,941 per 100,000
Virginia — 7,689 per 100,000
Maryland — 7,355 per 100,000
District of Columbia — 6,726 per 100,000
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html
Yes, but only approximately only 500 more than California, which has been the most locked down state in the country. I’d be interested in seeing the stats on suicide and overdoses over this period. I’m not convinced that locking down was worth the cost, especially for lower socioeconomic kids, many of whom lost a year of learning.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 13:08
Subject: Re:Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Does anybody who gets their teenager vaccinated anticipate them being able to drop masks at camp/school/activities or do you expect masks for all to continue? Given the CDC’s guidance last week about masks being required at camp indoors and out, I’m on the fence about having them get the vaccine.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 13:03
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Compare Texas to DMV. Masks and other protocols (including vaccines) work.
Texas — 9,941 per 100,000
Virginia — 7,689 per 100,000
Maryland — 7,355 per 100,000
District of Columbia — 6,726 per 100,000
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html
NP. One, you didn't show CA which I assume was on purpose.
If any of us were going to have an honest conversation about any of this that isn't driven by justifying our own actions and points of view, you'd likely want to look at a whole host of measures to evaluate after the fact whether the tradeoffs made were the correct ones. Likely people will be doing that for some years to come. Case rates per 100,000 would just be one thing to consider.
I mean this is DCUM and the focus is mainly on the DMV area... Not everything is a conspiracy
Anonymous
05/05/2021 12:38
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh I'm waiting for full authorization not this emergency use nonsense. How long can an emergency go on until it's time realize it's the new normal and carry on accordingly
1) educate yourself on the full vaccine approval process. Your implication that the EUA is dangerous and dicey is misleading.
2) the way the emergency ends and the new normal begins is for everyone who is medically able to get one of the multiple vaccines available in order to reduce the available hosts for the virus. That is how we go back to normal. Hence the push to vaccinate people now under the EUA and continue the regular approval process.
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Even where I am in Loudoun County, I would not say we are Texas-level back to normal, but we are much more normal than people describe on this board of the closer in suburbs.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:56
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Compare Texas to DMV. Masks and other protocols (including vaccines) work.
Texas — 9,941 per 100,000
Virginia — 7,689 per 100,000
Maryland — 7,355 per 100,000
District of Columbia — 6,726 per 100,000
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html
NP. One, you didn't show CA which I assume was on purpose.
If any of us were going to have an honest conversation about any of this that isn't driven by justifying our own actions and points of view, you'd likely want to look at a whole host of measures to evaluate after the fact whether the tradeoffs made were the correct ones. Likely people will be doing that for some years to come. Case rates per 100,000 would just be one thing to consider.
California: California — 9,488 per 100,000. Better than Texas, despite LA County getting hit obscenely hard because of population density (including many people in poverty and essential workers), and many experts blamed the spread, in part, on people travelling and ignoring restrictions. The Bay Area, by contrast, had high masking and social distancing compliance and experienced relatively few cases and death.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:51
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:My kids will not be first in line. We are going to wait for some time. Our trust in all government is very very low right now. Don’t trust the CDC and even more so after it seems the teachers unions had influence over guidelines. Have no reason to believe such influence from them or others is invading the FDA.
Wait until you hear how much influence Big Pharma, Oil and Gas and the Gun lobby have over all our policy.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:20
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
My kids will not be first in line. We are going to wait for some time. Our trust in all government is very very low right now. Don’t trust the CDC and even more so after it seems the teachers unions had influence over guidelines. Have no reason to believe such influence from them or others is invading the FDA.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 11:10
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Unless your child is at a high risk due to medical factors, you really need to consider the ethical choice of vaccinating a low risk kid (cites: https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00209-7/fulltext, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2779416, https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008559) over an adult somewhere else in the world.
This virus is mercifully slow-walking to its' end here, and in northern Virginia with a very low rate of adult vaccine hesitancy we will easily surpass herd immunity thresholds locally. However the virus is absolutely raging elsewhere, with 2024 as one date some are putting out for widespread vaccination in those countries. 2024!
https://news.yahoo.com/pandemic-rages-globally-us-set-181231707.html
If your kid has type I, asthma, or another condition it's a different ballgame from those of us who aren't facing that complication, of course.
While this is an interesting proposition there is no indication that me refusing a vaccine for my kid will result in their unused vaccine going to an adult somewhere else in the world.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 10:35
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Unless your child is at a high risk due to medical factors, you really need to consider the ethical choice of vaccinating a low risk kid (cites: https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00209-7/fulltext, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2779416, https://journals.plos.org/ploscompbiol/article?id=10.1371/journal.pcbi.1008559) over an adult somewhere else in the world.
This virus is mercifully slow-walking to its' end here, and in northern Virginia with a very low rate of adult vaccine hesitancy we will easily surpass herd immunity thresholds locally. However the virus is absolutely raging elsewhere, with 2024 as one date some are putting out for widespread vaccination in those countries. 2024!
https://news.yahoo.com/pandemic-rages-globally-us-set-181231707.html
If your kid has type I, asthma, or another condition it's a different ballgame from those of us who aren't facing that complication, of course.
This virus is mercifully slow-walking to its' end here, and in northern Virginia with a very low rate of adult vaccine hesitancy we will easily surpass herd immunity thresholds locally. However the virus is absolutely raging elsewhere, with 2024 as one date some are putting out for widespread vaccination in those countries. 2024!
https://news.yahoo.com/pandemic-rages-globally-us-set-181231707.html
If your kid has type I, asthma, or another condition it's a different ballgame from those of us who aren't facing that complication, of course.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 08:32
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh I'm waiting for full authorization not this emergency use nonsense. How long can an emergency go on until it's time realize it's the new normal and carry on accordingly
1) educate yourself on the full vaccine approval process. Your implication that the EUA is dangerous and dicey is misleading.
2) the way the emergency ends and the new normal begins is for everyone who is medically able to get one of the multiple vaccines available in order to reduce the available hosts for the virus. That is how we go back to normal. Hence the push to vaccinate people now under the EUA and continue the regular approval process.
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
My cousin graduated from University of Alabama last week. Make fun but it looked like a great time. I wonder if southern schools will have more applicants next year? If I'm a vax'd 18-21 year old why would I want to attend some covid cautious mediocre liberal arts college that's having a virtual graudation and all these campus life restrictions when I can go party and have a normal college experience down south?
I have a HS senior that just got into college. She absolutely applied to way more schools that would actually be open than she would in normal times. Lots of her peers did as well. They're done with the virtual crap that's passing for education these days.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 08:29
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Compare Texas to DMV. Masks and other protocols (including vaccines) work.
Texas — 9,941 per 100,000
Virginia — 7,689 per 100,000
Maryland — 7,355 per 100,000
District of Columbia — 6,726 per 100,000
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html
NP. One, you didn't show CA which I assume was on purpose.
If any of us were going to have an honest conversation about any of this that isn't driven by justifying our own actions and points of view, you'd likely want to look at a whole host of measures to evaluate after the fact whether the tradeoffs made were the correct ones. Likely people will be doing that for some years to come. Case rates per 100,000 would just be one thing to consider.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 08:09
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
I live in Texas. We’ve been back to normal since last fall. Once schools opened, most people started going to restaurants, gyms, having get togetherness, etc. Our numbers haven’t been any worse than CA’s or other locked down states.
Compare Texas to DMV. Masks and other protocols (including vaccines) work.
Texas — 9,941 per 100,000
Virginia — 7,689 per 100,000
Maryland — 7,355 per 100,000
District of Columbia — 6,726 per 100,000
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-confirmed-covid-19-cases-july-1.html
Anonymous
05/05/2021 08:02
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh I'm waiting for full authorization not this emergency use nonsense. How long can an emergency go on until it's time realize it's the new normal and carry on accordingly
1) educate yourself on the full vaccine approval process. Your implication that the EUA is dangerous and dicey is misleading.
2) the way the emergency ends and the new normal begins is for everyone who is medically able to get one of the multiple vaccines available in order to reduce the available hosts for the virus. That is how we go back to normal. Hence the push to vaccinate people now under the EUA and continue the regular approval process.
We will never truly get back to normal.
The DC area? Probably not but the rest of the country will.
My cousin graduated from University of Alabama last week. Make fun but it looked like a great time. I wonder if southern schools will have more applicants next year? If I'm a vax'd 18-21 year old why would I want to attend some covid cautious mediocre liberal arts college that's having a virtual graudation and all these campus life restrictions when I can go party and have a normal college experience down south?
Anonymous
05/05/2021 08:01
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh I'm waiting for full authorization not this emergency use nonsense. How long can an emergency go on until it's time realize it's the new normal and carry on accordingly
1) educate yourself on the full vaccine approval process. Your implication that the EUA is dangerous and dicey is misleading.
2) the way the emergency ends and the new normal begins is for everyone who is medically able to get one of the multiple vaccines available in order to reduce the available hosts for the virus. That is how we go back to normal. Hence the push to vaccinate people now under the EUA and continue the regular approval process.
We will never truly get back to normal.
I hear this attitude from older people and think it is pretty funny.
Young people, including children, will move on from this and never look back. They're not going to remember the pandemic of 2020 and strap on a mask or avoid the indoor party just in case. That's what youth is all about.
Also news flash, many people have been acting "normal" this whole time. It's very regional.
Really? It's the "educated elites" that seem to have this attitude. The types that go jogging with a mask on.
Anonymous
05/05/2021 07:59
Subject: Pfizer expecting to seek authorization for kids 2-11 in September
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh I'm waiting for full authorization not this emergency use nonsense. How long can an emergency go on until it's time realize it's the new normal and carry on accordingly
1) educate yourself on the full vaccine approval process. Your implication that the EUA is dangerous and dicey is misleading.
2) the way the emergency ends and the new normal begins is for everyone who is medically able to get one of the multiple vaccines available in order to reduce the available hosts for the virus. That is how we go back to normal. Hence the push to vaccinate people now under the EUA and continue the regular approval process.
We will never truly get back to normal.
There's no reason why we couldn't get back to normal now.