Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 10:53     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.


How about your kid gives 100% and if its not good enough so be it. Dont lower the standard to make it appear your kid is actually successful if they are truly not.


Are you a child? Or one of these coaches? Or THAT coach??? The OP was commenting on a coach displaying unprofessional behavior with ALL his team, the other team and the referee. Why do you keep trying to make this about one persons kid who isn’t trying or good enough? That’s deflection. This is a thread about coaches who are making the grade, not kids.


The fact is the new normal is to lower the expectation of athletes. Make it seem that its just a game that everyone can play together and the worst kid belongs on the field with the best kid. That everyone did a good job. We all know thats living a lie. We need a thread about parents who raise snowflakes and are are given an award for failure in the particular activity they chose to compete in.


Deflection. Not the topic of this thread. Time for some self-reflection I think there coach...
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 10:50     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.


How about your kid gives 100% and if its not good enough so be it. Dont lower the standard to make it appear your kid is actually successful if they are truly not.


Are you a child? Or one of these coaches? Or THAT coach??? The OP was commenting on a coach displaying unprofessional behavior with ALL his team, the other team and the referee. Why do you keep trying to make this about one persons kid who isn’t trying or good enough? That’s deflection. This is a thread about coaches who are making the grade, not kids.


The fact is the new normal is to lower the expectation of athletes. Make it seem that its just a game that everyone can play together and the worst kid belongs on the field with the best kid. That everyone did a good job. We all know thats living a lie. We need a thread about parents who raise snowflakes and are are given an award for failure in the particular activity they chose to compete in.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 10:13     Subject: Re:Badly Behaved Coaches
We saw this type of coach behavior first hand in small town rec. soccer. Verbally abusive, made fun of kids who were not as strong as the others, etc. He took the entire team from rec to local select travel league and that's where the wheels really fell off the wagon! His world beaters suddenly looked average. His anger intensified. We bowed out as soon as we could. We were going to leave mid season and were basically told if we did, we'd single handedly fold the team because they wouldn't have enough to even play a full side in a game! It was caustic to say the least.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:55     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.


How about your kid gives 100% and if its not good enough so be it. Dont lower the standard to make it appear your kid is actually successful if they are truly not.


Are you a child? Or one of these coaches? Or THAT coach??? The OP was commenting on a coach displaying unprofessional behavior with ALL his team, the other team and the referee. Why do you keep trying to make this about one persons kid who isn’t trying or good enough? That’s deflection. This is a thread about coaches who are making the grade, not kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:50     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.


How about your kid gives 100% and if its not good enough so be it. Dont lower the standard to make it appear your kid is actually successful if they are truly not.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:49     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Funny thread. 9 out 10 College Soccer coaches are verbally abusive. My advise to you is if you have an elite player, desensitize them early. Kids needs to learn to take criticism otherwise it's going to be that much harder to be succesful.

If your child is playing for fun and does not have aspirations of playing at the college level or higher, move clubs and keep it fun.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:46     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based upon some of the posts here, I think Gordon Ramsay would have been a great youth soccer coach. LOL


Exactly. It’s that kind of angry caveman act - what losers *think* winners do. Sports psychology has evolved over past 50 years...


Those who aren't good enough to play say thinks like that. Sports psychology gives actually athletes an added tool in their box. Its a waste of time if you dont have an athletic talent first. Go buy your kid an ice cream and tell them you loved watching him play even though he lost 6-0 stunk up the field with his below average spot you bought him on the team.


Either this is a weak troll - or the kind of half-wit that lets this kind of toxic BS continue. Newsflash - none of these kids will play professional sports - and all parents are paying (unless your little Messi got a full-ride travel soccer scholarship...). I’m sorry you never had good coaching - so think this is really what it should look like.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:45     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.


Thats the problem right there!!! you shouldn't have the ability just to say "We'd find another club". Too many bad kids are allowed to play to make everything level. All the competitiveness is sucked out travel sports. Its become a social wine and cheese weekend event. The bigger problem is there are too many clubs that just see the money and dont care about the athlete. We cater to the parent of the subpar kid who in reality sucks at soccer. We leave behind and dont develop the actual good athlete who cares and wants get better.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:33     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Based upon some of the posts here, I think Gordon Ramsay would have been a great youth soccer coach. LOL


Exactly. It’s that kind of angry caveman act - what losers *think* winners do. Sports psychology has evolved over past 50 years...


Those who aren't good enough to play say thinks like that. Sports psychology gives actually athletes an added tool in their box. Its a waste of time if you dont have an athletic talent first. Go buy your kid an ice cream and tell them you loved watching him play even though he lost 6-0 stunk up the field with his below average spot you bought him on the team.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:26     Subject: Re:Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I agree he's a wack job but at the same time we baby and protect our kids way to much. To say your kid would have been yanked after the first game doesn't say too much about you either. Not defending the coach all. Just making the statement that parents are wrong for always creating a safe bubble around they're kids not allowing them to experience the real world either. Again not to this extreme explained here but Please parents let the coach yell at your kids sometimes with emotion. Its a life skill they need to be coachable in many different life situations To tell them they are only doing a good job or always quietly explaining the things they didn't correct isn't always a correct way to deal with it either. I see too many parents feeling its not OK for a coach to yelll at their kid in front of other parents and players because they and their kid will be embarrassed. News flash for everyone whether your kid is the worst player on the field or the best on the field when they screw up its OK for the coach to show a variety of emotional with them. Anger and disappointment is just as good for the kid as positivity and praise are. Please stop the over protecting bubble like world you're keeping your kid in. Youre only screwing them up for later in life when they see the real world doesn't work like that.


Common now. Coaches shouldn’t need to yell whether it’s in front of anyone or not. There are much better and more effective ways to communicate than yelling. It’s not parents over-protecting their kids if a full grown adult man is yelling/screaming at their DC 10 year old DC.


Again stop being so over protective with the kids. Yelling at and telling them they are wrong in front of other is a teaching point to get through to everyone. Everyone can learn from Johnnys mistake including Johnny. Travel soccer is becoming an over priced rec environment. Travel is supposed to be a competitive thing not just to play and have fun. Its a different set of goals. True competitive sports are being watered down because of business. More and more you can buy your way into the environment. It used to be the only kids playing in these environment were the kids who were more talented and more competitive. They would have tryouts and select the few that deserved to make it. Now we have so many opportunities and so many clubs anyone who wants to play can. Its really watered down the the competitive aspect. Its sad when a player or coach who are actually wired like true athletes are (most won't understand that) are being out numbered by families who just want their DC to be included rather than earn their spot.


Using the same argument. Isn't it true coaching is watered down also? It used to be that we had many great coaches and only a selected few great coaches have the pleasure to develop the most talented kids.



Very true overall there are too too many coaches and players in a "competitive" environment that really have no business being there except it is now acceptable to buy your way in instead of competing where the some make it and most get cut.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:26     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
If my kid were on such a team, I’d complain to the director of the club. If it weren’t corrected, we’d find another club.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:16     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:Based upon some of the posts here, I think Gordon Ramsay would have been a great youth soccer coach. LOL


Exactly. It’s that kind of angry caveman act - what losers *think* winners do. Sports psychology has evolved over past 50 years...
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:16     Subject: Re:Badly Behaved Coaches
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I agree he's a wack job but at the same time we baby and protect our kids way to much. To say your kid would have been yanked after the first game doesn't say too much about you either. Not defending the coach all. Just making the statement that parents are wrong for always creating a safe bubble around they're kids not allowing them to experience the real world either. Again not to this extreme explained here but Please parents let the coach yell at your kids sometimes with emotion. Its a life skill they need to be coachable in many different life situations To tell them they are only doing a good job or always quietly explaining the things they didn't correct isn't always a correct way to deal with it either. I see too many parents feeling its not OK for a coach to yelll at their kid in front of other parents and players because they and their kid will be embarrassed. News flash for everyone whether your kid is the worst player on the field or the best on the field when they screw up its OK for the coach to show a variety of emotional with them. Anger and disappointment is just as good for the kid as positivity and praise are. Please stop the over protecting bubble like world you're keeping your kid in. Youre only screwing them up for later in life when they see the real world doesn't work like that.


Common now. Coaches shouldn’t need to yell whether it’s in front of anyone or not. There are much better and more effective ways to communicate than yelling. It’s not parents over-protecting their kids if a full grown adult man is yelling/screaming at their DC 10 year old DC.


Again stop being so over protective with the kids. Yelling at and telling them they are wrong in front of other is a teaching point to get through to everyone. Everyone can learn from Johnnys mistake including Johnny. Travel soccer is becoming an over priced rec environment. Travel is supposed to be a competitive thing not just to play and have fun. Its a different set of goals. True competitive sports are being watered down because of business. More and more you can buy your way into the environment. It used to be the only kids playing in these environment were the kids who were more talented and more competitive. They would have tryouts and select the few that deserved to make it. Now we have so many opportunities and so many clubs anyone who wants to play can. Its really watered down the the competitive aspect. Its sad when a player or coach who are actually wired like true athletes are (most won't understand that) are being out numbered by families who just want their DC to be included rather than earn their spot.


Using the same argument. Isn't it true coaching is watered down also? It used to be that we had many great coaches and only a selected few great coaches have the pleasure to develop the most talented kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 09:09     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
Based upon some of the posts here, I think Gordon Ramsay would have been a great youth soccer coach. LOL
Anonymous
Post 05/03/2021 08:57     Subject: Badly Behaved Coaches
+1