Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 21:02     Subject: Question about college major
I work in advertising and also recommend the Econ major. Have been in the field for 25 years and like to hire fresh outs with harder degrees and high GPAs. Have made successful hires who major in a lot of things: Spanish, Econ, Math, Communications, etc. The creative staff all have specific design or portfolio school degrees, but it can be a lot more random for PM or account staff.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 20:36     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:Is this Michigan State? If so, their Environmental Economics and Management major is in their school of agriculture and is very based on agriculture and contains the bare minimum for economics and not even much environmental science. It sounds like a great program for the food science/agriculture side of things, but it doesn’t have the math or econ to take a job that required an econ degree.

I think that’s what people are talking about when they say that the degrees you mention are very specific.


Thanks for explaining this. It makes more sense when you connect it to agriculture.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 20:22     Subject: Question about college major
Is this Michigan State? If so, their Environmental Economics and Management major is in their school of agriculture and is very based on agriculture and contains the bare minimum for economics and not even much environmental science. It sounds like a great program for the food science/agriculture side of things, but it doesn’t have the math or econ to take a job that required an econ degree.

I think that’s what people are talking about when they say that the degrees you mention are very specific.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:09     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Environmental Economics and Management

- signed, someone who works in media and advertising


haha, ok, thank you! Do you not enjoy your work, or is hard to find work?


Hi, it's me. Media in general is not very stable. I'm continually surprised I still have a job. Advertising these days, particularly management, is all about trying to figure out how to game the social media algorithms, which change on Zuckerberg's whim. Lots of spreads sheets and number crunching, goal meeting and "targeting." (If she's looked to get into the creative side of advertising, that's different. There is always agency work and it's less tedious and imho, more fulfilling.) I'm close enough to retirement that I'm just going to ride it out.


Obviously, this is true, but Facebook was founded in 2004. That’s three years after the dot-com crash and two years after today’s seniors were. So, some of the biggest fortunes the world has ever known have been made in advertising during our children’s lifetimes. So, you never know.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 19:03     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:I told DD I'd ask here, she knows that you all tell it like it is! Anyway, she's trying to decide between

Environmental Economics and Management (B.S.) or Advertising Management.


Presumably jobs further down the line aren't a total match for major anyway, so I'm guessing she wants to know which sounds better or will be more employable. (For instance, DH has history degree and works in IT).

Any strong leanings one way or the other?


I think she should major in environmental economics and try to get a student job at a campus publication, if she’s interested in advertising.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:36     Subject: Re:Question about college major
First one sounds a little more technical/academic. Second one would worry me that your kid would get stuck updating website and monitoring a companies social media accounts.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:20     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Environmental Economics and Management

- signed, someone who works in media and advertising


haha, ok, thank you! Do you not enjoy your work, or is hard to find work?


Hi, it's me. Media in general is not very stable. I'm continually surprised I still have a job. Advertising these days, particularly management, is all about trying to figure out how to game the social media algorithms, which change on Zuckerberg's whim. Lots of spreads sheets and number crunching, goal meeting and "targeting." (If she's looked to get into the creative side of advertising, that's different. There is always agency work and it's less tedious and imho, more fulfilling.) I'm close enough to retirement that I'm just going to ride it out.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:15     Subject: Question about college major
What year is she, OP?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:13     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:I told DD I'd ask here, she knows that you all tell it like it is! Anyway, she's trying to decide between

Environmental Economics and Management (B.S.) or Advertising Management.


Presumably jobs further down the line aren't a total match for major anyway, so I'm guessing she wants to know which sounds better or will be more employable. (For instance, DH has history degree and works in IT).

Any strong leanings one way or the other?


I have no idea what these majors are. I would worry that many hiring managers won’t know what they are either. Someone else gave good advice - double major in Economics and Environmental Science. Advertising is a difficult field to be in.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:09     Subject: Re:Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look for another university. It shouldn't be so specific in the degree itself. It should be, for example, a B.S. in Business Administration with a major (or concentration) in Environmental Economics or Marketing. Advertising will be a course or two within Marketing, especially at Undergraduate level.

Signed - Advanced degrees in Engineering and MBA.


That's just useless.

And I'll raise you two Engineering degrees and a PhD. Just answer the question next time.


What makes you think "advanced degrees in Engineering" doesn't mean a Ph.D. in Engineering. I applaud your DC and advise to go to a university as far away from home as humanly possible.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:05     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:I told DD I'd ask here, she knows that you all tell it like it is! Anyway, she's trying to decide between

Environmental Economics and Management (B.S.) or Advertising Management.


Presumably jobs further down the line aren't a total match for major anyway, so I'm guessing she wants to know which sounds better or will be more employable. (For instance, DH has history degree and works in IT).

Any strong leanings one way or the other?


I would go with the economics if she is not sure what she wants to do. People are saying it sounds narrow but I think the opposite, someone that has knowledge in economics, management, and environment. Think it will open up more opportunities for a first job and probably even grad schools if that’s the way she goes.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 18:01     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is she just looking at what major is most fun or which major will set her up for a job? I mean, what does she want to be when she grows up?


+1

Seriously, why the hell would you major in something as obscure as "environmental economics and management?" She can just double major in environmental science and economics.


Why the hell would you bother to not respond to the question? Why do people not just move on if they are incapable of just answering a simple question?

Idiots.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 17:58     Subject: Re:Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:Engineering or CS.


+1

Anonymous
Post 04/14/2021 17:58     Subject: Question about college major
Anonymous wrote:Is she just looking at what major is most fun or which major will set her up for a job? I mean, what does she want to be when she grows up?


+1

Seriously, why the hell would you major in something as obscure as "environmental economics and management?" She can just double major in environmental science and economics.