Anonymous
04/05/2021 17:17
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wondering what folks think about this decision and will it impact what your junior decides to take?
To answer your question, it will have no impact on my son's decision. He had planned on taking AP English and AP History. The fact that some kids who might not have taken these classes because they might not have gotten a recommendation/been encouraged by teachers but now they can if they want to has zero bearing on his decision (and he's proud of the school for this decision). He's also guessing that it might not make that much of a difference in terms of the numbers of kids who actually decide to take the classes but that's an aside.
To some of the earlier posters, the is NOT AP for all...this is AP by Choice (read the school's email before spouting off).
Same for my kid.
If this (pretty modest) change means some parents decide Wilson is wrong for their kids, the school will be better for it. The place is overcrowded as it is, and better that teachers and administrators don't have to spend their limited time dealing with the high-maintenance bullshit.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 17:11
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:So it is that everyone is now allowed to take these classes or everyone is taking these classes (i.e. there is ONE level class and it is AP)?
Can someone please answer this?
--rising 9th grade parent who doesn't get the emails.
I have the email and my interpretation was everyone is taking these classes. the email from the school was not clear.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 17:06
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
So it is that everyone is now allowed to take these classes or everyone is taking these classes (i.e. there is ONE level class and it is AP)?
Can someone please answer this?
--rising 9th grade parent who doesn't get the emails.
Can someone please answer this?
--rising 9th grade parent who doesn't get the emails.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:52
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Allowed to take it is not the same as being able to handle an advanced pace. The classes will slow.
OR, consider the fact that MAYBE there is some implicit bias in terms of who gets recommended by teachers. MAYBE the few kids who have not been recommended in the past but who want to take it CAN handle it.
this is good to know, I have no idea how kids can get into an AP class. however, if this is the case, why is this limited to AP English and AP US History? why not extending to AP calculus, AP biology, physics or chemistry? if minority kids are kept out from AP classes due to teacher's bias, it seems fair that those AP classes are open too.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:48
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
"our next step in advancing equity at Wilson is to offer AP U.S. History and AP English Language for all juniors in the 2021-2022 academic year."
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:48
Subject: Re:Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
^^ And what about all the science classes mentioned by a PP above?
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:46
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
so is it:
1)everyone who wants to take AP history and English can.
OR
2)everyone takes AP English and history (i.e. there are no non-AP classes in these subjects for 11th graders?
can someone clarify?
1)everyone who wants to take AP history and English can.
OR
2)everyone takes AP English and history (i.e. there are no non-AP classes in these subjects for 11th graders?
can someone clarify?
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:43
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Wondering what folks think about this decision and will it impact what your junior decides to take?
To answer your question, it will have no impact on my son's decision. He had planned on taking AP English and AP History. The fact that some kids who might not have taken these classes because they might not have gotten a recommendation/been encouraged by teachers but now they can if they want to has zero bearing on his decision (and he's proud of the school for this decision). He's also guessing that it might not make that much of a difference in terms of the numbers of kids who actually decide to take the classes but that's an aside.
To some of the earlier posters, the is NOT AP for all...this is AP by Choice (read the school's email before spouting off).
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:43
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Also means you’ll have some people in the class who don’t want to be there. A mix of interested and non-interested students is not as good for students and teachers alike.
Wrong. Read the email from the school. Students who WANT to take it will have access to it, they will not be forced to take it.
I have an email called "AP US History & AP English Language for All Juniors..."
Is there another one? Because it is not clear *at all* from this email whether students will have the option not to take it.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:37
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Ugh. Also means you’ll have some people in the class who don’t want to be there. A mix of interested and non-interested students is not as good for students and teachers alike.
Wrong. Read the email from the school. Students who WANT to take it will have access to it, they will not be forced to take it.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:35
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Allowed to take it is not the same as being able to handle an advanced pace. The classes will slow.
OR, consider the fact that MAYBE there is some implicit bias in terms of who gets recommended by teachers. MAYBE the few kids who have not been recommended in the past but who want to take it CAN handle it.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:33
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Allowed to take it is not the same as being able to handle an advanced pace. The classes will slow.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:21
Subject: Re:Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wilson is consistent, first making it Honors for All for 9th, then 10th, and now 11th. By next year, the conversion will be complete.
I had really wanted my kids to be able to go there; I didn’t think we’d ever move out of DC. But clearly the Principal is attacking perceived inequity with a blunt tool, solving one problem by shifting the burden to others. This sucks.
+1 Wilson used to provide a challenging curriculum for those who want it, but still had another curriculum for those who needed a slower pace. Not anymore.
Not true...see other folk's comment on this. AP and non-AP classes will still be available. A few kids who wanted to be in AP but weren't recommended will now be allowed to take it. All of you need to chill out.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:19
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's no such thing as a set curriculum for AP and grades mean nothing in American high schools. You can call the class anything you'd like but that's the truth.
I have experience with both public and private schools in DC.
My DC's work in 7th grade at a private in pre-algebra was equivalent to 11th/12th grade Algebra in public. Sorry those are the facts.
FWIW, my DC is doing algebra in 7th at a DC public...so your private kid is falling behind my public kid. You better call your Head of School.
Anonymous
04/05/2021 16:17
Subject: Universal AP English & History at Wilson next year for 11th grade
Anonymous wrote:There's no such thing as a set curriculum for AP and grades mean nothing in American high schools. You can call the class anything you'd like but that's the truth.
I have experience with both public and private schools in DC.
My DC's work in 7th grade at a private in pre-algebra was equivalent to 11th/12th grade Algebra in public. Sorry those are the facts.
so a private school class in 7th is equivalent to a remedial math class in public (that's what it is if it's Algebra for seniors)- strange thing to be proud of