Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ha, try having lived in two different apartments and one row home and still getting dogged by pot smoke wherever you go. My kids are going to be stupid AND sick! I regret voting for decriminalization and I pray we never fully legalize.
I regret it too. I was being overly sympathetic to pot smokers, often young, 'getting a record'. never excpected that selfish pot smokers of all ages would just smoke in the street and blow smoke in kids' faces. Dumb me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ha, try having lived in two different apartments and one row home and still getting dogged by pot smoke wherever you go. My kids are going to be stupid AND sick! I regret voting for decriminalization and I pray we never fully legalize.
I regret it too. I was being overly sympathetic to pot smokers, often young, 'getting a record'. never excpected that selfish pot smokers of all ages would just smoke in the street and blow smoke in kids' faces. Dumb me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Yes, was that supposed to be a "gotcha" question or something?
If seeing someone drunk on the ground offends you, that's a "you" problem. The world has no obligation to conform to your insanely delicate sensibilities. If you're worried about their safety, call 911. If the mere sight of a person in a prone position causes you trauma, you need to seek intense therapy because that's not normal, and if it doesn't cause you trauma you need to grow the hell up because "I personally kinda don't like seeing this so it can never be allowed to happen in my presence" is not how rational adults act.
People have the right to expect clean public spaces. If someone takes over a bus stop to do drugs then that has a direct impact on everyone else in the community (such as children using public transit to get to school, as OP mentioned). That person should get all the help and social services to deal with their addiction, but to say they have an absolute right to trash the place is ludicrous.[/quote
True. But this is hardly "taking over a bus stop to do drugs". This is smoking a cigarette outside. It's also not likely "addiction" or "trashing" anything. What boggles my mind is that I bet the vast majority of people who are just so aghast at someone smoking a joint, probably drink enough alcohol to fill a reservoir. Their drug of choice is seen as just fine. And they're probably not too worried about the impressionable children when they uncork a bottle of wine or sip their single malt. I could be very wrong -- but I doubt it.
It's still illegal to smoke drugs in public, just like there are open container laws for alcohol. A bus stop where children are waiting to get to school is no place for either beer or weed.
Why not? Seriously? I’m not arguing that it’s a great idea from a public health perspective, but smoking tobacco by a bus stop is fine. The OP hasn’t reappeared to address my questions about alcohol use. Honestly, I personally would prefer alcohol to be illegal, but since it’s not, I don’t get the outrage about pot vs alcohol and cigarettes. If children shouldn’t be exposed to people smoking pot on the streets, why not ban all three? While there are open container laws for alcohol, unless someone is disruptive, they are probably enforced with the same lack of intensity. Alcohol is served outside, and will be more visible and prevalent as more restaurants focus on outdoor seating. I’m guessing that the number of people cited for drinking on their porches or steps is small.
Clearly I don’t share the OP’s outrage. I do think though, that there should be consistency instead of singling out pot.
I personally don’t drink alcohol or smoke anything. I just don’t get the inconsistency or the outrage.
Anonymous wrote:Ha, try having lived in two different apartments and one row home and still getting dogged by pot smoke wherever you go. My kids are going to be stupid AND sick! I regret voting for decriminalization and I pray we never fully legalize.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Yes, was that supposed to be a "gotcha" question or something?
If seeing someone drunk on the ground offends you, that's a "you" problem. The world has no obligation to conform to your insanely delicate sensibilities. If you're worried about their safety, call 911. If the mere sight of a person in a prone position causes you trauma, you need to seek intense therapy because that's not normal, and if it doesn't cause you trauma you need to grow the hell up because "I personally kinda don't like seeing this so it can never be allowed to happen in my presence" is not how rational adults act.
People have the right to expect clean public spaces. If someone takes over a bus stop to do drugs then that has a direct impact on everyone else in the community (such as children using public transit to get to school, as OP mentioned). That person should get all the help and social services to deal with their addiction, but to say they have an absolute right to trash the place is ludicrous.[/quote
True. But this is hardly "taking over a bus stop to do drugs". This is smoking a cigarette outside. It's also not likely "addiction" or "trashing" anything. What boggles my mind is that I bet the vast majority of people who are just so aghast at someone smoking a joint, probably drink enough alcohol to fill a reservoir. Their drug of choice is seen as just fine. And they're probably not too worried about the impressionable children when they uncork a bottle of wine or sip their single malt. I could be very wrong -- but I doubt it.
It's still illegal to smoke drugs in public, just like there are open container laws for alcohol. A bus stop where children are waiting to get to school is no place for either beer or weed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Yes, was that supposed to be a "gotcha" question or something?
If seeing someone drunk on the ground offends you, that's a "you" problem. The world has no obligation to conform to your insanely delicate sensibilities. If you're worried about their safety, call 911. If the mere sight of a person in a prone position causes you trauma, you need to seek intense therapy because that's not normal, and if it doesn't cause you trauma you need to grow the hell up because "I personally kinda don't like seeing this so it can never be allowed to happen in my presence" is not how rational adults act.
People have the right to expect clean public spaces. If someone takes over a bus stop to do drugs then that has a direct impact on everyone else in the community (such as children using public transit to get to school, as OP mentioned). That person should get all the help and social services to deal with their addiction, but to say they have an absolute right to trash the place is ludicrous.[/quote
True. But this is hardly "taking over a bus stop to do drugs". This is smoking a cigarette outside. It's also not likely "addiction" or "trashing" anything. What boggles my mind is that I bet the vast majority of people who are just so aghast at someone smoking a joint, probably drink enough alcohol to fill a reservoir. Their drug of choice is seen as just fine. And they're probably not too worried about the impressionable children when they uncork a bottle of wine or sip their single malt. I could be very wrong -- but I doubt it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Yes, was that supposed to be a "gotcha" question or something?
If seeing someone drunk on the ground offends you, that's a "you" problem. The world has no obligation to conform to your insanely delicate sensibilities. If you're worried about their safety, call 911. If the mere sight of a person in a prone position causes you trauma, you need to seek intense therapy because that's not normal, and if it doesn't cause you trauma you need to grow the hell up because "I personally kinda don't like seeing this so it can never be allowed to happen in my presence" is not how rational adults act.
People have the right to expect clean public spaces. If someone takes over a bus stop to do drugs then that has a direct impact on everyone else in the community (such as children using public transit to get to school, as OP mentioned). That person should get all the help and social services to deal with their addiction, but to say they have an absolute right to trash the place is ludicrous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Yes, was that supposed to be a "gotcha" question or something?
If seeing someone drunk on the ground offends you, that's a "you" problem. The world has no obligation to conform to your insanely delicate sensibilities. If you're worried about their safety, call 911. If the mere sight of a person in a prone position causes you trauma, you need to seek intense therapy because that's not normal, and if it doesn't cause you trauma you need to grow the hell up because "I personally kinda don't like seeing this so it can never be allowed to happen in my presence" is not how rational adults act.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Should we then also just ignore public drunkenness? What's the difference between someone rolling on the floor because they're drunk or high? This isn't about whether someone should go to jail or not, but having basic respect for your fellow members of society and keeping our cities from becoming a total mess.
Anonymous wrote:Ignore. Walk a different way.
Anonymous wrote:What's worse are all those commuters lighting up behind the wheel on their way home. There are so many now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:keep em high, drunk , and uneducated.
And easily controlled.
This. I feel like part of the reason politicians are promoting recreational weed is to make the populace too languid to dissent.
Anonymous wrote:There's a guy who sits near a bus stop smoking weed during the afternoon. Kids are getting out of school, and people off the bus. It's shit like this that make me hate legalization of marijuana. Other than calling the police, what other recourse would I have? It's right near a school.