I think you’d find the students at a top 10 LAC comparable to students at a top 20 uni in terms of stats but far more interesting in terms of personality, world view and career goals.

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Anonymous wrote:I know Emory is a good school, but is it really all that impressive? Its high ranking is more due to Coca Cola fortune and endowment than academics or academic reputation.

Middlebury is one of the best SLACs in the country.

Emory is much better than Middlebury, a true shmuck would send their child to Miss if they also got into Emory.

With that said to answer OP's question the top 10 LAC's would be equal to the top 30 Unis. The times/wsj ranking combines both unis and lacs into the same ranking and Williams and Amherst are just outside the top 20.

All that is wrong. Though grads from both schools probably know how to spell "schmuck."

It's not wrong there's a reputable ranking that combine both unis and Williams and Amherst are right outside the top 20. Maybe 50 years ago Middlebury was better but today not a chance, most teens would choose Emory.

I'd agree with this assessment -- the very top LACs are probably right around the T20 mark if we're trying to equate schools. But it's very hard because all of these institutions have very different missions, ethos, etc.

The idea that either Emory or Tufts is better than Amherst is laughable. Compare their admissions to top grad schools. Of course, Emory may have more traction in the South, just as UVA does. I think some Southerners consider them like the Harvard of the South...

WSJ lumps all types of schools together for their rankings

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is very funny - only the original post above is mine.

I’m curious (not obsessed with) how people meld the 2 lists. Thanks for mentioning the forbes unified list, I’ll check it out. Also, among the students we know at BCC, Whitman and Churchill, it’s very common to apply to both Tufts and Emory (and Wash U).

I don't think you do. Colleges are colleges. Universities are universities. And public universities are yet another entity with a different mission and admission concerns, which is why USN&WR has a list of the best public universities.

As you probably know, after you figure out how much your family can allocate to Larlo's four, five or six years of Undergrad, the next thing you should do is visit one college and one university. Larlo will know. We took our children to my SLAC and toured and I asked my very young son then if he was a "college man" or "university man" and I explained the difference. No question! University man.

One could compare LACs and universities in a number of ways. Which comparison you prefer depends on what you want to know. For example, you could compare based on admission rates. In that case the best LACs are similar to universities rated around 15-20. You could compare academic qualifications of the admitted class through test scores. There, the very top LACs are similar to the top 10 universities. You could compare academic intensity by looking at class size, whether or not a thesis is required for graduation, and the percentage of students who attend PhD programs. There, I think top LACs would be very competitive with the top universities. In fact, this is where they excel. You could compare professional outcomes by looking at admissions to the best medical, law, and business programs. Again, I think the top LACs would do well, but not as well as HYS because these schools have their own professional schools and they like to admit their own. In sum, a comparison between LACs and universities are not one dimensional. You should consider what matters most to your student and compare accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:I know Emory is a good school, but is it really all that impressive? Its high ranking is more due to Coca Cola fortune and endowment than academics or academic reputation.

Middlebury is one of the best SLACs in the country.

How would you know the bolded, aren't all top schools wealthy?

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, Parchment, which collects data on student admissions and which school they end up attending, shows Emory and Tufts as being pretty much a toss-up:

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=Emory+University

But that isn't the case for WashU and Tufts

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Washington+University+in+St.+Louis&with=Tufts+University


Clear preference for WashU.

You know that site is very inaccurate. And besides Tufts students never do as well as Emory students on avg.

Please do share your sources for this information. Always looking for more and better information.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, Parchment, which collects data on student admissions and which school they end up attending, shows Emory and Tufts as being pretty much a toss-up:

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=Emory+University

But that isn't the case for WashU and Tufts

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Washington+University+in+St.+Louis&with=Tufts+University


Clear preference for WashU.

You know that site is very inaccurate. And besides Tufts students never do as well as Emory students on avg.

Especially when it comes to Engineering

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, Parchment, which collects data on student admissions and which school they end up attending, shows Emory and Tufts as being pretty much a toss-up:

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=Emory+University

But that isn't the case for WashU and Tufts

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Washington+University+in+St.+Louis&with=Tufts+University


Clear preference for WashU.

You know that site is very inaccurate. And besides Tufts students never do as well as Emory students on avg.

FWIW, Parchment, which collects data on student admissions and which school they end up attending, shows Emory and Tufts as being pretty much a toss-up:

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Tufts+University&with=Emory+University

But that isn't the case for WashU and Tufts

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Washington+University+in+St.+Louis&with=Tufts+University

Clear preference for WashU.

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Anonymous wrote:They are different animals...for instance, I drive a 911 and two of my neighbors respectively have a Tesla and Challenger Hellcat...all are fast as F@#K and fun to drive but different flavors, no two things are the same.

I see your point but don’t fully agree. I think for example that Tufts has more in common with the other NESAC schools than NYU and UC Santa Barbara, which it is tied with on the USNWR list - same with Emory being right next to UC Berkeley on USNWR (and by the way I discovered that Emory is 10 numbers ahead of Tufts in USNWR - which I find meaningless but I think the posters saying they aren’t peer schools are off base).

10 is a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is very funny - only the original post above is mine.

I’m curious (not obsessed with) how people meld the 2 lists. Thanks for mentioning the forbes unified list, I’ll check it out. Also, among the students we know at BCC, Whitman and Churchill, it’s very common to apply to both Tufts and Emory (and Wash U).

Sorry that was me, I meant to say PP but my phone autocorrects everything. I also said the quote where the top 10 LAC's are equal to the top 30 Unis.

LOL, you really have time to go to this site from your phone? I mean that is borderline addiction....

I guess so if you consider everyone has a phone addiction these days. You must be really old and use desktop.

Yes, really old, this whole interwebs thing is a whole new world for me. I still press to text on my phone, I guess I'm just a weird freak.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is very funny - only the original post above is mine.

I’m curious (not obsessed with) how people meld the 2 lists. Thanks for mentioning the forbes unified list, I’ll check it out. Also, among the students we know at BCC, Whitman and Churchill, it’s very common to apply to both Tufts and Emory (and Wash U).

Sorry that was me, I meant to say PP but my phone autocorrects everything. I also said the quote where the top 10 LAC's are equal to the top 30 Unis.

LOL, you really have time to go to this site from your phone? I mean that is borderline addiction....

I guess so if you consider everyone has a phone addiction these days. You must be really old and use desktop.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is very funny - only the original post above is mine.

I’m curious (not obsessed with) how people meld the 2 lists. Thanks for mentioning the forbes unified list, I’ll check it out. Also, among the students we know at BCC, Whitman and Churchill, it’s very common to apply to both Tufts and Emory (and Wash U).

Sorry that was me, I meant to say PP but my phone autocorrects everything. I also said the quote where the top 10 LAC's are equal to the top 30 Unis.

LOL, you really have time to go to this site from your phone? I mean that is borderline addiction....