Anonymous
02/22/2021 04:51
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.
https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters
https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php
While chalkbeat is a useless, one-sided, poorly-written union blog, I’m not sure what you’re saying about USC. But anyway, chalkbeat is so transparent here. “A plurality want all DL! This is evidence that we should continue in DL! Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the majority would like some in-person?
How do you know the majority want in person? Based on DCUM? Yeah, that isn’t a good way to assess a majority.
Anonymous
02/21/2021 23:58
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Highly inflammatory opinion: many of the same bipoc families reporting that they do not plan on sending their kids back to school are the same families whose kids aren’t doing well. It’s not “working for them” per se.
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
If this was true, then how do you explain Asian families choosing distance learning in large numbers? They are more likely than Latino or black students to choose to remain in DL and also have higher scores than pretty much any demographic group.
I really do think it’s about housing and the existence of elederly/immune compromised in a household with kids. That’s not prevalent among white Americans.
Show me the data.
Anonymous
02/21/2021 09:37
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Highly inflammatory opinion: many of the same bipoc families reporting that they do not plan on sending their kids back to school are the same families whose kids aren’t doing well. It’s not “working for them” per se.
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
If this was true, then how do you explain Asian families choosing distance learning in large numbers? They are more likely than Latino or black students to choose to remain in DL and also have higher scores than pretty much any demographic group.
I really do think it’s about housing and the existence of elederly/immune compromised in a household with kids. That’s not prevalent among white Americans.
Bipoc doesn't include Asian.
Why exclude the exact demographic group that overturns the PP’s crackpot theory? You can’t selectively ignore Asian Americans.
BIPOC are also more likely than whites to have multi-generational housing/care arrangements. They are scared of the virus because it’s affecting their communities more than white people.
Anonymous
02/21/2021 08:19
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Highly inflammatory opinion: many of the same bipoc families reporting that they do not plan on sending their kids back to school are the same families whose kids aren’t doing well. It’s not “working for them” per se.
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
If this was true, then how do you explain Asian families choosing distance learning in large numbers? They are more likely than Latino or black students to choose to remain in DL and also have higher scores than pretty much any demographic group.
I really do think it’s about housing and the existence of elederly/immune compromised in a household with kids. That’s not prevalent among white Americans.
Bipoc doesn't include Asian.
Anonymous
02/21/2021 07:06
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Highly inflammatory opinion: many of the same bipoc families reporting that they do not plan on sending their kids back to school are the same families whose kids aren’t doing well. It’s not “working for them” per se.
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
If this was true, then how do you explain Asian families choosing distance learning in large numbers? They are more likely than Latino or black students to choose to remain in DL and also have higher scores than pretty much any demographic group.
I really do think it’s about housing and the existence of elederly/immune compromised in a household with kids. That’s not prevalent among white Americans.
Anonymous
02/21/2021 04:54
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Highly inflammatory opinion: many of the same bipoc families reporting that they do not plan on sending their kids back to school are the same families whose kids aren’t doing well. It’s not “working for them” per se.
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
If you don’t value education, why would you send your kid into if if you didn’t have to and there is any risk? If you don’t care that they fail out, that makes logical sense. My best friends class - it’s a title 1 school - the kids whose families already picked distance learning have kids who aren’t attending or doing any work a year. She says she’s not sure what’s she’s going to do when hybrid starts and none of her CDL kids show up to afternoon session (it’s CDL in afternoon).
Anonymous
02/21/2021 01:11
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to make educational policy based on what people want. This can often be in conflict with what children need.
Opinion polling is a bad way to make good policy.
+1,000,000.
And not just educational policy.
+1000
Thank you for writing this! As a teacher I have seen what many parents want be in direct conflict with what is best for their child’s education. Just read the relationships forum on this site to see how many people are messed up from their childhoods. Parents are not all knowing beings in terms of their child’s welfare.
Anonymous
02/20/2021 22:40
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:It is not a good idea to make educational policy based on what people want. This can often be in conflict with what children need.
Opinion polling is a bad way to make good policy.
+1,000,000.
And not just educational policy.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 21:06
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:It's a pretty well known fact that the loudest people with the biggest wallets are going to be the most vocal. #openFCPS and its equivalent around the country are very representative of that fact. DCUM is 99% rich white women posting so OF COURSE that's who is going to be vocal on this board. In real life, most of the people I know are fine with DL. They don't love it, it's not ideal, of course they'd like kids to be back in school, but most people I've talked to would prefer 5 days in school to 100% DL to hybrid in that order.
Weird. I have only met one parent who is fine with DL. No other parents and not even teachers. I doubt either of us know a representative sample.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 20:53
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
It's a pretty well known fact that the loudest people with the biggest wallets are going to be the most vocal. #openFCPS and its equivalent around the country are very representative of that fact. DCUM is 99% rich white women posting so OF COURSE that's who is going to be vocal on this board. In real life, most of the people I know are fine with DL. They don't love it, it's not ideal, of course they'd like kids to be back in school, but most people I've talked to would prefer 5 days in school to 100% DL to hybrid in that order.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 17:39
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
White MC & UMC families don’t live with their grandparents or other elderly. Therefore they are the most likely to want to go back to school 5 days/week and are not satisfied.
You really need to look at the household composition. In NYC, the most likely population to opt-out of in person learning are Asian in Queens. Why? Because they have three generations in one household. And you can’t tell me these people don’t care about their kid’s’ education....
You really need to look at the household composition. In NYC, the most likely population to opt-out of in person learning are Asian in Queens. Why? Because they have three generations in one household. And you can’t tell me these people don’t care about their kid’s’ education....
Anonymous
02/19/2021 13:14
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.
https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters
https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php
While chalkbeat is a useless, one-sided, poorly-written union blog, I’m not sure what you’re saying about USC. But anyway, chalkbeat is so transparent here. “A plurality want all DL! This is evidence that we should continue in DL! Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the majority would like some in-person?
yea sorry the USC link didnt work, have to click COVID 19 then click SPONSORS, couldnt link directly. Gates Foundation interestingly one of the common funders between them.
Chalkbeat is garbage but the Gates Foundation doesn’t worry me. Having worked in non-profits, Gates sponsors EVERYTHING at some point
Anonymous
02/19/2021 12:36
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.
https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters
https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php
While chalkbeat is a useless, one-sided, poorly-written union blog, I’m not sure what you’re saying about USC. But anyway, chalkbeat is so transparent here. “A plurality want all DL! This is evidence that we should continue in DL! Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the majority would like some in-person?
yea sorry the USC link didnt work, have to click COVID 19 then click SPONSORS, couldnt link directly. Gates Foundation interestingly one of the common funders between them.
Anonymous
02/19/2021 12:29
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.
https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters
https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php
LOL.
The better question is who wasn’t “pro-lockdown”?
Anonymous
02/19/2021 12:17
Subject: National Surveys: Plurality of parents prefer DL, most getting what they want
Anonymous wrote:follow the money. a lot of pro-lockdown organizations in the funders of both the study and the chalkbeat group.
https://www.chalkbeat.org/pages/supporters
https://uasdata.usc.edu/index.php
While chalkbeat is a useless, one-sided, poorly-written union blog, I’m not sure what you’re saying about USC. But anyway, chalkbeat is so transparent here. “A plurality want all DL! This is evidence that we should continue in DL! Are we supposed to ignore the fact that the majority would like some in-person?