Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 17:27     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, yes on your second sentence. The volunteer led teams means there is no consistency in curriculum like training, tactics etc across those teams. And they can and will steal players from each other—the volunteer led teams are not stratified meaning the best talent that isn’t in the academy isn’t on team Black and the next group on ye Silver—BRYC never has their best players all together in the same team. The volunteer coaches don’t work together.
The non academy teams also will never be in ECNL.


Are they playing in the same league though ? Meaning ODSL and the Elite academy teams.
How many of the Elite academy players make the promotion to the ECNL teams from ELITE teams after u13?
What is the cost to be on the ODSL team vs the Elite being they play in the exact same league?
It all sounds so confusing. Are any other clubs this divided within?


Academy teams don't/never play in ODSL. Elite Bridge teams (volunteer/parent-led) and full Elite could both play in NCSL until U13/U14... but generally area not in the same divisions within NCSL. Whenever ECNL begins is when the full Elite and Elite Bridge would not be playing in the same league. ECNL league will get the players exposure to college coaches. NCSL generally won't.
I don't know the answer to the second question. But, if there is a player on a Bridge team who wants to play ECNL they have to be proactive and go tryout for the ECNL teams. There isn't an active promotion and relegation system of players for the Elite ECNL teams from Elite Bridge and ODSL and vice versa.
ODSL and Elite Bridge team costs are similar as the poster above intimated and you can see the discrepancy for the full Elite. One difference about the add-ons for the ODSL/Bridge teams is they will have additional add-ons if they want to bring in their own paid/professional trainers to augment what the volunteer head coach/staff is already providing. Full Elite doesn't have those additional add-ons. It's not enough to cover a $1K gap either probably.


I am at BRYC and yes the former ODSL teams play in the same league as our academy elite teams the NCSL. The main difference is your getting a volunteer coach as opposed to an academy coach. Honestly after u13 the academy elite teams are more less and after thought. The club values the ECNL teams only. The add ons talked about above are tourney fees , team equipment benches. balls. coaches travel expenses per diem etc. and uniform cost. all of which both academy and bridge teams pay on top of the club fees. My son plays on an ECNL team so I dont have a horse in the race. I do think the bridge teams have a better deal for what both get out of it.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 13:59     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the academy teams cost $1995.00 per year plus add ons. The bridge teams cost $555.00 per year plus add ons.

Thats a huge discrepancy to play in the same league and sometimes a higher division.

How is that justified to the Elite teams? and has there been any push back?


If you are paying $1,995 per year, you are paying for a professional coach.
If you are paying $555 per year, you get a volunteer 'dad' coach.


What do we call the coaches at Loudoun raking in over 40 per team phoning it in?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 13:04     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the academy teams cost $1995.00 per year plus add ons. The bridge teams cost $555.00 per year plus add ons.

Thats a huge discrepancy to play in the same league and sometimes a higher division.

How is that justified to the Elite teams? and has there been any push back?


If you are paying $1,995 per year, you are paying for a professional coach.
If you are paying $555 per year, you get a volunteer 'dad' coach.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 09:56     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, yes on your second sentence. The volunteer led teams means there is no consistency in curriculum like training, tactics etc across those teams. And they can and will steal players from each other—the volunteer led teams are not stratified meaning the best talent that isn’t in the academy isn’t on team Black and the next group on ye Silver—BRYC never has their best players all together in the same team. The volunteer coaches don’t work together.
The non academy teams also will never be in ECNL.


Are they playing in the same league though ? Meaning ODSL and the Elite academy teams.
How many of the Elite academy players make the promotion to the ECNL teams from ELITE teams after u13?
What is the cost to be on the ODSL team vs the Elite being they play in the exact same league?
It all sounds so confusing. Are any other clubs this divided within?


Academy teams don't/never play in ODSL. Elite Bridge teams (volunteer/parent-led) and full Elite could both play in NCSL until U13/U14... but generally area not in the same divisions within NCSL. Whenever ECNL begins is when the full Elite and Elite Bridge would not be playing in the same league. ECNL league will get the players exposure to college coaches. NCSL generally won't.
I don't know the answer to the second question. But, if there is a player on a Bridge team who wants to play ECNL they have to be proactive and go tryout for the ECNL teams. There isn't an active promotion and relegation system of players for the Elite ECNL teams from Elite Bridge and ODSL and vice versa.
ODSL and Elite Bridge team costs are similar as the poster above intimated and you can see the discrepancy for the full Elite. One difference about the add-ons for the ODSL/Bridge teams is they will have additional add-ons if they want to bring in their own paid/professional trainers to augment what the volunteer head coach/staff is already providing. Full Elite doesn't have those additional add-ons. It's not enough to cover a $1K gap either probably.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 09:28     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
Looks like the academy teams cost $1995.00 per year plus add ons. The bridge teams cost $555.00 per year plus add ons.

Thats a huge discrepancy to play in the same league and sometimes a higher division.

How is that justified to the Elite teams? and has there been any push back?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 09:17     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking, yes on your second sentence. The volunteer led teams means there is no consistency in curriculum like training, tactics etc across those teams. And they can and will steal players from each other—the volunteer led teams are not stratified meaning the best talent that isn’t in the academy isn’t on team Black and the next group on ye Silver—BRYC never has their best players all together in the same team. The volunteer coaches don’t work together.
The non academy teams also will never be in ECNL.


Are they playing in the same league though ? Meaning ODSL and the Elite academy teams.
How many of the Elite academy players make the promotion to the ECNL teams from ELITE teams after u13?
What is the cost to be on the ODSL team vs the Elite being they play in the exact same league?
It all sounds so confusing. Are any other clubs this divided within?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 08:24     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Generally speaking, yes on your second sentence. The volunteer led teams means there is no consistency in curriculum like training, tactics etc across those teams. And they can and will steal players from each other—the volunteer led teams are not stratified meaning the best talent that isn’t in the academy isn’t on team Black and the next group on ye Silver—BRYC never has their best players all together in the same team. The volunteer coaches don’t work together.
The non academy teams also will never be in ECNL.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 07:57     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:Makes more sense to just have NCSL absorb the teams. The big issue within our club "Braddock road" is how those ODSL teams are going to be accommodated. They are paying half of what are Elite teams cost to play in the same league. I know some Elite kids will just move to the former ODSL team rosters after this spring.


Why are the ODSL teams paying half? Isn’t it the same program or do the ODSL teams have volunteer coaches or fewer training days?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2021 07:48     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:Makes more sense to just have NCSL absorb the teams. The big issue within our club "Braddock road" is how those ODSL teams are going to be accommodated. They are paying half of what are Elite teams cost to play in the same league. I know some Elite kids will just move to the former ODSL team rosters after this spring.



Another look into the disfunction of BRYC.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 21:38     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:Other than Barca, who is this going to impact? All the big clubs moved their lower teams to NCSL.


They moved the ODSL teams to EDP last year
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 19:17     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
It's fine. The league was too small. There were some good teams, but the level of competition was uneven and it was hard to be appropriately matched. It will be best for NCSL to just absorb the teams.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 18:40     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:THANK YOU SOCCER GODS. One less league to fracture the landscape. Put more teams in NCSL and allow for open competition, and more movement between teams playing in upper and lower divisions


This. I still can’t figure out the byzantine youth soccer league systems around here, so one less league sounds like good news to me!


ODSL was like a not so competitive kids and dont drive too far, snacks after every game, my dad is the coach ,discount travel team.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 18:37     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:next league that needs to go - NPL/VPL/ECNL-R whatever you want to call it



U sound salty. Your kid or club didn’t make it? Awwww schweet cakes
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 18:24     Subject: Re:No ODSL for Spring 2021
USL league will help cloud up the league shortly
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 18:19     Subject: No ODSL for Spring 2021
Anonymous wrote:THANK YOU SOCCER GODS. One less league to fracture the landscape. Put more teams in NCSL and allow for open competition, and more movement between teams playing in upper and lower divisions


This. I still can’t figure out the byzantine youth soccer league systems around here, so one less league sounds like good news to me!