Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 21:05     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but when you see a kid from your school got into Duke with a 3.5 and 1250 SAT, you're given false hopes.


Nah, I just think “athlete.”



Yes, if any kid is getting into Duke with those scores than they are an athlete, that will barely get you into JMU these days.


We have one on our naviance with a 2.7 and 975 SAT. I assume big time athlete. The rest are 4.0+ 1500 SAT.


We have one of those at Georgetown and one at Denison.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 20:56     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:The NCES college navigator doesn’t report scores for many of the schools we’re looking at now that they’ve updated with 2020-21 info. This will make it much harder for students to determine their list this year. I’m glad my rising senior already came up with most of their schools. The lack of data makes it harder for schools to sort students, and also makes it hard for students to sort schools!

That doesn't even make sense, as the 2020-21 info is for college class of 2024. Disappointing, as class of 2024 is the last year of normal info that seniors can rely on. I'd suggest checking the Common Data Set directly to see if more can be found there.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 20:31     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
The NCES college navigator doesn’t report scores for many of the schools we’re looking at now that they’ve updated with 2020-21 info. This will make it much harder for students to determine their list this year. I’m glad my rising senior already came up with most of their schools. The lack of data makes it harder for schools to sort students, and also makes it hard for students to sort schools!
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 20:06     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
One simple tip: apply widely
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:44     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Have your kid take the SAT or ACT. As long as they are still "optional" kids who do not have them will be at a disadvantage. Colleges will think the score was too bad to submit.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:42     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For us, this year, Naviance wasn't very helpful WITH an SAT score (DC wait-listed at in-state school Naviance deemed a safety). I can only imagine that it's worse without one.

+1


+2 Not helpful for my DC this year. I think my DC is the first kid ever from their private school to be rejected from a few schools this year. Well, DC was WL then the WL closed - so rejection. Literally ALL green checks on the scattergram. College counselor admitted they were completely shocked.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:35     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:For us, this year, Naviance wasn't very helpful WITH an SAT score (DC wait-listed at in-state school Naviance deemed a safety). I can only imagine that it's worse without one.

+1
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 19:33     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
For us, this year, Naviance wasn't very helpful WITH an SAT score (DC wait-listed at in-state school Naviance deemed a safety). I can only imagine that it's worse without one.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 17:30     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but when you see a kid from your school got into Duke with a 3.5 and 1250 SAT, you're given false hopes.


Nah, I just think “athlete.”



Yes, if any kid is getting into Duke with those scores than they are an athlete, that will barely get you into JMU these days.


We have one on our naviance with a 2.7 and 975 SAT. I assume big time athlete. The rest are 4.0+ 1500 SAT.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2021 01:12     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DD was unable to take either the SAT or ACT this year, Naviance uses her PSAT score in the scatterplot. Not a great or very helpful comparision.


We deleted the PSAT score so the scattergram only compares GPA.


How did you delete the score?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2021 18:40     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:Yes but when you see a kid from your school got into Duke with a 3.5 and 1250 SAT, you're given false hopes.


It doesn't matter what the stats are, if the scattergram shows an outlier data point for admission it should be ignored, regardless of the underlying reason.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2021 17:20     Subject: Re:Naviance without Sat scores
Bump
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 11:56     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We found naviance to be pretty worthless. it's not telling you got in because of non academic factors. you can get the same info re scores/grades for a college by looking online.


Depends on your school and the college you are looking at. If we went by national averages alone the match list would look very different based on GPAs in particular (the school doesn't weight or inflate).

NP. I think this is going to be a problem for juniors trying to parse a list into reaches, matches, and safeties. Naviance is a limited amount of data, yet the only clue by a particular high school's GPA, and my guess is that this year's applicants won't have very consistent results with test optional now a thing (whether they submit scores or not).
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 11:56     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but when you see a kid from your school got into Duke with a 3.5 and 1250 SAT, you're given false hopes.


Nah, I just think “athlete.”



Yes, if any kid is getting into Duke with those scores than they are an athlete, that will barely get you into JMU these days.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2021 11:50     Subject: Naviance without Sat scores
Anonymous wrote:Yes but when you see a kid from your school got into Duke with a 3.5 and 1250 SAT, you're given false hopes.


Nah, I just think “athlete.”