Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 23:09     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:*your

And this book is not a medical textbook. It's about culture and body image and PATRIARCHY. It's good. This culture would do well with a little pruning of the BS absorbing so much of women's head space. You, PP, are the BS that makes contemporary culture fail so many women, and everyone who would benefit from their flourishing.

https://www.morethanabody.org/more-than-a-body-prove-it/


I’m the PP who posted about the obese pod who goes out to eat, but I did not post about the bloggers who are giving poor advice (although I agree with those PP’s). There must be other posters who think like I do because I did not make multiple posts. These bloggers would do better to address racism, food insecurity, food deserts, subsidies and tax breaks to food and agriculture companies that push unhealthy foods, lack of healthcare, livable wages, poor education systems, etc. Obesity would be reduced and both mental and physical health would be improved. The obese should not be a protected class like BIPOC or gays.

I don’t live for the patriarchy. I don’t dress or eat or exercise for men. I don’t single out women for being fat. Fat men should also lose weight. I do not blame most people for being fat either. I already listed many systemic reasons for obesity and some people have medical conditions that cause obesity. I do blame privileged white men and women who are fat because of hedonistic lifestyles.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 19:50     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There has to be one poster writing the same rant over and over on this thread. We get it. You think people you consider too fat should die so "your" society of acceptable people can avoid looking at them or pay any cost you deem they impose on YOU.

Guess what - you're crazy!!! And hateful.

Do you realize that people like you actually impose the greater costs on society? Discrimination on the basis of appearance results in shaming that leads to lack of use of medical care, employment loss, less career advancement, and much else.

You, too, are "more than just a body." You're a person with an AWFUL character and personality. You're acceptable body is NOTHING compared to that.

I feel sorry for the people in your orbit who have to deal with you directly.


+1


That poster makes the same nasty comments on any thread discussing this issue. I’ve read it here many times. It’s a really weird obsession.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 19:44     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:There has to be one poster writing the same rant over and over on this thread. We get it. You think people you consider too fat should die so "your" society of acceptable people can avoid looking at them or pay any cost you deem they impose on YOU.

Guess what - you're crazy!!! And hateful.

Do you realize that people like you actually impose the greater costs on society? Discrimination on the basis of appearance results in shaming that leads to lack of use of medical care, employment loss, less career advancement, and much else.

You, too, are "more than just a body." You're a person with an AWFUL character and personality. You're acceptable body is NOTHING compared to that.

I feel sorry for the people in your orbit who have to deal with you directly.


+1
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 19:44     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
*your

And this book is not a medical textbook. It's about culture and body image and PATRIARCHY. It's good. This culture would do well with a little pruning of the BS absorbing so much of women's head space. You, PP, are the BS that makes contemporary culture fail so many women, and everyone who would benefit from their flourishing.

https://www.morethanabody.org/more-than-a-body-prove-it/
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 19:41     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
There has to be one poster writing the same rant over and over on this thread. We get it. You think people you consider too fat should die so "your" society of acceptable people can avoid looking at them or pay any cost you deem they impose on YOU.

Guess what - you're crazy!!! And hateful.

Do you realize that people like you actually impose the greater costs on society? Discrimination on the basis of appearance results in shaming that leads to lack of use of medical care, employment loss, less career advancement, and much else.

You, too, are "more than just a body." You're a person with an AWFUL character and personality. You're acceptable body is NOTHING compared to that.

I feel sorry for the people in your orbit who have to deal with you directly.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 19:31     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.morethanabody.org/

Good for many women to read. Internalized patriarchy wastes lives.


These two women are pretty, well dressed, able-bodied, and highly educated. Not representative of the many obese who don’t take care of themselves and look hundreds of pounds more. I know morbidly obese people who got even fatter during the pandemic. Like 300+ pounds up from 250. They still eat at steakhouses and drink cocktails and beer all the time. These two bloggers look like they take care of themselves.


This fixation you have with fat people going out to eat is so weird dude
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 18:35     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
I agree with the PP’s who think the bloggers are using their weight as an angle to monetize their blog. They are marketing to people much fatter and unhealthy than they are and making it seem like a social justice issue. Dilutes the true work of combatting true injustice like racism or homophobia. In fact, combatting racism would go a long way to reduce obesity. As well as addressing food insecurity, food deserts, tax breaks and subsidies for food corporations and agriculture companies who promote unhealthy foods, poor pay, lack of healthcare, etc.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 17:08     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
A fat person who can dance is not necessarily healthy.

For example:

https://twitter.com/movieman_1970/status/1165778135494709248?s=21

I don’t think any doctor would consider him to be healthy. RIP. The “psychiatrist” is proponent of advocating for “obesity is healthy” by calling it “body positivity”. Shocking if she is truly a medical provider. Possibly she’s the fat dancer and she’s just promoting her blog....
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 16:23     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does body positivity mean that obesity is not necessarily unhealthy? I know people who are 40+ BMI and not at all bothered by it or trying to lose weight. They love to eat, drink, and socialize with other similarly obese people. It’s like they find power in numbers. What I don’t see them doing is exercising or eating healthy foods. Only copious alcoholic beverages and restaurant meals.


OP here. I don’t think of it this way. I think of it as the opposite of pro-Ana.


Pro-Ana is the other extreme. Obviously unhealthy and dangerously so. Maybe pro-obesity is not as immediately dangerous as pro-Ana, but still. Is it good public health policy to glorify obesity or to say you can be obese and healthy? I’m not talking about slightly overweight or borderline obese. I’m talking about 300+ pounds people who make it a lifestyle to be morbidly obese and proud.


Can you please read the blogs and instagram posts that are linked on this thread?
They are fantastic, and I don’t think they are saying what you think at all.



Interesting, I went down a rabbit hole of blogs on body positivity. Never knew about these. Some are great like the one you posted about the dancer/marathoner. One of her articles was on “good fatty/bad fatty dichotomy”. I don’t agree with her premise that it’s okay to be a “bad fatty”. Moreover, one of the blogs she cites is by a woman who unapologetically acts in porn as an act of fat-acceptance. That’s screwed up right there.


When I was skinny and sedentary and struggling with an eating disorder, no one was concerned with my inactivity besides my doctor. Maybe you owe your kids and spouse attention to your health, but you don't owe internet strangers that or anyone else, and the idea that you're doing something wrong by choosing to be unhealthy only comes out with things people already disapprove of, like being fat or smoking. No one says that people have an obligation to do strength training, even though it would be a huge contributor to health and quality of life.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 16:04     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.morethanabody.org/

Good for many women to read. Internalized patriarchy wastes lives.


These two women are pretty, well dressed, able-bodied, and highly educated. Not representative of the many obese who don’t take care of themselves and look hundreds of pounds more. I know morbidly obese people who got even fatter during the pandemic. Like 300+ pounds up from 250. They still eat at steakhouses and drink cocktails and beer all the time. These two bloggers look like they take care of themselves.


Ok?
What’s your point? There are people of all shapes and sizes who don’t care for themselves or others.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 15:55     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.morethanabody.org/

Good for many women to read. Internalized patriarchy wastes lives.


These two women are pretty, well dressed, able-bodied, and highly educated. Not representative of the many obese who don’t take care of themselves and look hundreds of pounds more. I know morbidly obese people who got even fatter during the pandemic. Like 300+ pounds up from 250. They still eat at steakhouses and drink cocktails and beer all the time. These two bloggers look like they take care of themselves.


These two gals are entrepreneurs capitalizing on their audience, not doctors or medical professionals. Their educational background is Communication and Gender Studies degrees. They primary goal is targeting obese women and persuading them to accept their health status quo. I cannot imagine a medical doctor would advise 300+ pound they are healthy. If so, that’s medical malpractice.

Buyer beware when consuming these recommendations.
Anonymous
Post 02/06/2021 12:12     Subject: Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:https://www.morethanabody.org/

Good for many women to read. Internalized patriarchy wastes lives.


These two women are pretty, well dressed, able-bodied, and highly educated. Not representative of the many obese who don’t take care of themselves and look hundreds of pounds more. I know morbidly obese people who got even fatter during the pandemic. Like 300+ pounds up from 250. They still eat at steakhouses and drink cocktails and beer all the time. These two bloggers look like they take care of themselves.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 18:45     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does body positivity mean that obesity is not necessarily unhealthy? I know people who are 40+ BMI and not at all bothered by it or trying to lose weight. They love to eat, drink, and socialize with other similarly obese people. It’s like they find power in numbers. What I don’t see them doing is exercising or eating healthy foods. Only copious alcoholic beverages and restaurant meals.


OP here. I don’t think of it this way. I think of it as the opposite of pro-Ana.


Pro-Ana is the other extreme. Obviously unhealthy and dangerously so. Maybe pro-obesity is not as immediately dangerous as pro-Ana, but still. Is it good public health policy to glorify obesity or to say you can be obese and healthy? I’m not talking about slightly overweight or borderline obese. I’m talking about 300+ pounds people who make it a lifestyle to be morbidly obese and proud.


Can you please read the blogs and instagram posts that are linked on this thread?
They are fantastic, and I don’t think they are saying what you think at all.



Interesting, I went down a rabbit hole of blogs on body positivity. Never knew about these. Some are great like the one you posted about the dancer/marathoner. One of her articles was on “good fatty/bad fatty dichotomy”. I don’t agree with her premise that it’s okay to be a “bad fatty”. Moreover, one of the blogs she cites is by a woman who unapologetically acts in porn as an act of fat-acceptance. That’s screwed up right there.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 14:59     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does body positivity mean that obesity is not necessarily unhealthy? I know people who are 40+ BMI and not at all bothered by it or trying to lose weight. They love to eat, drink, and socialize with other similarly obese people. It’s like they find power in numbers. What I don’t see them doing is exercising or eating healthy foods. Only copious alcoholic beverages and restaurant meals.


Body positivity is about every body being worthy of respect and dignity and worthy of taking up as much space as they need to exist. Regardless of the body’s health, size, or beauty.


What if they need to seats on an airplane. Should they have to pay for another seat? I play a large musical instrument and need to pay extra for a seat.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2021 11:35     Subject: Re:Your favorite body positive blogs/books/instagram/etc.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I looked at these blogs and the women are inspiring and show that it is possible to live healthy fulfilling lives in a large body. They are athletic, full of energy, and motivate women of all shapes and sizes to be their best selves. These particular women are awesome ambassadors for self-acceptance. This does not mean that every obese woman is as admirable, intelligent, or athletic as they are. First of all, I know women and men (I don’t think women alone should wear the fat label) who are much more obese than these bloggers. They cannot do yoga or dance like these active folks. They lead what I would describe as hedonistic lives. They are not ambassadors for a better society like these people. They drink a lot of sugary alcoholic beverages, eat inside bars and restaurants during a pandemic, go on cruises during a pandemic (didn’t care ship wasn’t able to stop at any ports because they could drink on the ship), don’t wear masks, and seemingly do nothing but gamble and party. They do not associate with normal weight people at all.

While I admire these bloggers and see the importance of their stories, not all obese people are so inspiring. Some of them are really just hedonistic users of resources and don’t contribute to society. They pose in photos with their fancy cocktails at fancy restaurants, celebrate every little thing with lots of food and beer and even go to concerts indoors during a pandemic. They are proud of their lifestyle and their tight clique of 10 morbidly obese couples. They are not healthy or active like these bloggers. They are simply fat and proud.




Yeah, if somebody is over a certain weight, not actively and conspicuously trying to lose weight or lead a healthy lifestyle is considered a moral failing, almost. People can’t just live.

These are great body positivity resources, PPs! Thank you!

Um, you know skinny people go out to eat, drink, and go on cruises too right? There are anti-maskers of all sizes. None of the stuff you mentioned is exclusive to fat people.

Not all people are inspiring. Nobody has to be your inspiration porn to deserve respect!