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Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

I don't think you could require mandatory testing in a public school, let alone testing of students and families. If that's the requirement to reopen, then schools will stay closed for years. Stop dismissing every study and devote all of your time your to advocating for daily testing of every person engaged in essential and non-essential activities.

Us reopening goes by numbers. So, as long as the positives remain high we aren't opening but yes, everyone should be tested given how contagious COVID is and the new strains. If people want schools to reopen, they need to do their part. Their individual lives are more important than the greater good, so we remain closed. Pretty simple.

This is your opinion. It is not a rule or a policy. Public education exists for the greater good and frankly, right now positives aren't that high. Families have done their part, and frankly, many have hurt their children by doing everything possible to control spread, passing on in person interaction, sports, and activities. There is no policy requiring testing for opening any particular segment of society, so testing should not be the standard for school either.

Anonymous wrote:Just one small example. School of about 1500 students. Tests all students and staff every week. Two cases last week, students only, both were doing virtual only. Not a single case on campus for the past 4 months. No case=no transmission. And there has been 100% testing.

How many students on campus weekly? Hybrid? How many positives since September?

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Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

I don't think you could require mandatory testing in a public school, let alone testing of students and families. If that's the requirement to reopen, then schools will stay closed for years. Stop dismissing every study and devote all of your time your to advocating for daily testing of every person engaged in essential and non-essential activities.

Us reopening goes by numbers. So, as long as the positives remain high we aren't opening but yes, everyone should be tested given how contagious COVID is and the new strains. If people want schools to reopen, they need to do their part. Their individual lives are more important than the greater good, so we remain closed. Pretty simple.

Just one small example. School of about 1500 students. Tests all students and staff every week. Two cases last week, students only, both were doing virtual only. Not a single case on campus for the past 4 months. No case=no transmission. And there has been 100% testing.

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Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

I don't think you could require mandatory testing in a public school, let alone testing of students and families. If that's the requirement to reopen, then schools will stay closed for years. Stop dismissing every study and devote all of your time your to advocating for daily testing of every person engaged in essential and non-essential activities.

It's not a requirement to open schools, but how can you say there's no evidence of spread from children to adult in schools if you aren't testing the children who are asymptomatic?

We will keep going round and round in circles. You can't prove it is safe if everyone isn't tested, but the fact is that in the most controlled environments with significant mitigation measures in place, they aren't seeing widespread transmission. People here have been complaining that reopening privates created the surge in the fall and that private school reopenings aren't safe because students aren't being tested regularly in all states. However, if kids are getting at it school, and spreading it throughout the community asymptomatically, why aren't family members of private school kids getting COVID? Why aren't teachers? Because that does not seem to be happening.

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Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

I don't think you could require mandatory testing in a public school, let alone testing of students and families. If that's the requirement to reopen, then schools will stay closed for years. Stop dismissing every study and devote all of your time your to advocating for daily testing of every person engaged in essential and non-essential activities.

It's not a requirement to open schools, but how can you say there's no evidence of spread from children to adult in schools if you aren't testing the children who are asymptomatic?

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Anonymous wrote:You realize each district was 5-7K students across multiple schools. And, there is no way you can say low transmission as they didn't test every single child, staff and family every week as a baseline.

And, some were fully virtual, some were hybrid...

From the article: "We specifically requested data from districts who had implemented the hybrid model for the entire 9-week period and had tracked cases and secondary transmission by school."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

I don't think you could require mandatory testing in a public school, let alone testing of students and families. If that's the requirement to reopen, then schools will stay closed for years. Stop dismissing every study and devote all of your time your to advocating for daily testing of every person engaged in essential and non-essential activities.

Anonymous wrote:So now maybe it is the Democrats that don’t believe in data??

I'm a Democrat, and a teacher, and a parent of school aged children.

I definitely believe that data show that will a LOT of appropriate measures taken, schools can be run so that they are not large contributors of spread of COVID in a community. They are not nearly as dangerous as indoor dining, or bars and nightclubs, or church services where people are singing.

In the schools where this study was carried out, community spread was low to begin with. And the following measures were taken:

-daily screening of students and staff,
- compliance with mask wearing for students and adults
-public reporting of COVID-19 cases,
-efficient contact tracing,
-collaboration with local health departments,
-regular updates for students and staff,
-school principal encouragement to adhere to the measures and report breaches in protocol,
- detailed scheduling of all parts of the school day,
definitive plans for special-needs students
- opening using a hybrid model of in-person and remote learning
- close contacts of positives were quarantined for 14 days.

Most of us in the education field do not have faith that these measures will in fact be carried out in a real world situation, especially not when community spread is high. We believe what will happen is positive cases will not be reported; or the definition of "close contacts" will be curtailed. I am hearing of many schools where as long as students are wearing a mask in a classroom, they are by definition not considered to be a close contact of anyone who tests positive because it is presumed that masks are 100% effective at preventing spread.


One question I have is how students were selected for COVID testing. We know that many, many young children can be COVID positive while showing absolutely no symptoms. So unless they were testing students randomly (and I don't read in the report that they did) how did they know which students were actually positive?

For example, say Mrs. Smith, 2nd grade teacher, came down with COVID symptoms and was tested and was positive. Did they then test all the students in her class to see if any students could have given her COVID? Because if the students had no symptoms, how would they otherwise be tested?

Anonymous wrote:In NYC public schools there have been 13,638 recorded COVID cases among staff and students and they fail to contact trace 80% of infections and they’re still saying this. This is the big new push so it doesn’t matter what that data supports.

If there are cases in the community, then people working and attending school will also have cases. The important question is whether covid is being transmitted inside the buildings at a higher rate than other community locations. The evidence shows that it is actually transmitted at a much lower rate than out elsewhere in the community.

So now maybe it is the Democrats that don’t believe in data??

In NYC public schools there have been 13,638 recorded COVID cases among staff and students and they fail to contact trace 80% of infections and they’re still saying this. This is the big new push so it doesn’t matter what that data supports.

The "data" speaks for nothing.

No routine testing. Contact racing is a joke. It's the Trumpian "logic" of "if we don't test, we can pretend there are no positives and pretend no community transmission from schools exists."

BZZT! Next?

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Anonymous wrote:90,000 kids in school. Zero cases of testing on school grounds for Covid+ status.

The study even says this is all inferred based on contract tracing polling.

In the first 9 weeks of in-person instruction in North Carolina schools, we found extremely limited within-school secondary transmission of SARS-CoV-2, determined by contact tracing.

My kid was tested in school today at a MoCo private. It is happening.

Families also need testing.

Anonymous wrote:You realize each district was 5-7K students across multiple schools. And, there is no way you can say low transmission as they didn't test every single child, staff and family every week as a baseline.

And, some were fully virtual, some were hybrid...