Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 19:13     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, they're vaccinating the teachers. That is great. Can they reopen the schools fully soon? Or will teachers still complain about going back to school? I've had to go to work throughout the entire pandemic and I'm not vaccinated yet.


You were in an enclosed room for 6 hrs with 20 people? What job is that.

Teachers are vaccinated but their families would still be at risk; we might get a hybrid but until we know vaccine suppresses transmission don’t get excited


It would be incredibly unusual for a vaccine to prevent you from getting sick but, at the same time, not prevent you from transmitting to someone else. No vaccine in the history of vaccines has ever worked that way. I’m so sick of teachers clamping into any reason to avoid going in person.


That info came from Fauci!! He said we don’t know yet and that it can be possible to carry/shed even after being vaccinated. This is not the same kind of vaccine as flu, etc. as thus uses mRNA.

“mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.”


Thanks. I could have avoided wasting my time getting that Ph.D. in biochemistry if I had only knew you then. Here’s a good article for you to read from the New England Journal of Medicine.
https://www.nejm.org/covid-vaccine/faq?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210118&instance_id=26125&nl=the-morning®i_id=121671491&segment_id=49584&te=1&user_id=c34a48f1de378b6a240ed4a6f9dc55c0

Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 19:10     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids are not vax and neither are their families- so they must still mask and social distance. You cannot fit full classes in the classrooms with those restrictions. We will be lucky if they go back “fully” in the fall. Kids still won’t be vax by then. Are you ok sending your kid full time unmasked?


If it would get them back in school, yes. Yes I would.


You can not be serious.


100% serious
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 19:09     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kids are not vax and neither are their families- so they must still mask and social distance. You cannot fit full classes in the classrooms with those restrictions. We will be lucky if they go back “fully” in the fall. Kids still won’t be vax by then. Are you ok sending your kid full time unmasked?


If it would get them back in school, yes. Yes I would.


You can not be serious.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 19:05     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, they're vaccinating the teachers. That is great. Can they reopen the schools fully soon? Or will teachers still complain about going back to school? I've had to go to work throughout the entire pandemic and I'm not vaccinated yet.


You were in an enclosed room for 6 hrs with 20 people? What job is that.

Teachers are vaccinated but their families would still be at risk; we might get a hybrid but until we know vaccine suppresses transmission don’t get excited


It would be incredibly unusual for a vaccine to prevent you from getting sick but, at the same time, not prevent you from transmitting to someone else. No vaccine in the history of vaccines has ever worked that way. I’m so sick of teachers clamping into any reason to avoid going in person.


Uh. Are you from APE? Please read. That is indeed the current understanding of these vaccines.


NP. No it is not. The understanding is that they didn't have time to study whether or not you could transmit. But in all likelihood, they do prevent transmission, they just don't know for sure.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 19:05     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, they're vaccinating the teachers. That is great. Can they reopen the schools fully soon? Or will teachers still complain about going back to school? I've had to go to work throughout the entire pandemic and I'm not vaccinated yet.


You were in an enclosed room for 6 hrs with 20 people? What job is that.

Teachers are vaccinated but their families would still be at risk; we might get a hybrid but until we know vaccine suppresses transmission don’t get excited


It would be incredibly unusual for a vaccine to prevent you from getting sick but, at the same time, not prevent you from transmitting to someone else. No vaccine in the history of vaccines has ever worked that way. I’m so sick of teachers clamping into any reason to avoid going in person.


That info came from Fauci!! He said we don’t know yet and that it can be possible to carry/shed even after being vaccinated. This is not the same kind of vaccine as flu, etc. as thus uses mRNA.

“mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.”
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 18:57     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, they're vaccinating the teachers. That is great. Can they reopen the schools fully soon? Or will teachers still complain about going back to school? I've had to go to work throughout the entire pandemic and I'm not vaccinated yet.


You were in an enclosed room for 6 hrs with 20 people? What job is that.

Teachers are vaccinated but their families would still be at risk; we might get a hybrid but until we know vaccine suppresses transmission don’t get excited


It would be incredibly unusual for a vaccine to prevent you from getting sick but, at the same time, not prevent you from transmitting to someone else. No vaccine in the history of vaccines has ever worked that way. I’m so sick of teachers clamping into any reason to avoid going in person.


Uh. Are you from APE? Please read. That is indeed the current understanding of these vaccines.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 18:42     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OK, they're vaccinating the teachers. That is great. Can they reopen the schools fully soon? Or will teachers still complain about going back to school? I've had to go to work throughout the entire pandemic and I'm not vaccinated yet.


You were in an enclosed room for 6 hrs with 20 people? What job is that.

Teachers are vaccinated but their families would still be at risk; we might get a hybrid but until we know vaccine suppresses transmission don’t get excited


It would be incredibly unusual for a vaccine to prevent you from getting sick but, at the same time, not prevent you from transmitting to someone else. No vaccine in the history of vaccines has ever worked that way. I’m so sick of teachers clamping into any reason to avoid going in person.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:56     Subject: APS reopening
Your anger is Ill placed on teachers. You should be emailing Bridget loft who is responsible for this learning disaster and the superintendent. The teachers are not making these decisions. Now they’re stuck with this new concurrent model that is horrible for everyone involved. I can’t imagine the stress theyre under with managing and in person classroom, virtual classroom, and a-hole parents
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:51     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are moving the goalposts and it pisses me off. Not til we are vaccinated! Not til my household is vaccinated! Not til the kids are vaccinated!

My kids will not go to school for an entire year. A whole year. This is insane.


I’m a teacher- we’re not doing that. A) We don’t have that much power, B) most of us are fine going back- the vaccine made a difference, and C) the “goal posts” are metrics- as more people are vaccinated, we’ll meet them. APS had always wanted to and will open, I assure you.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:45     Subject: Re:APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:Teachers are NOT making these decisions. APS is making them. And if APS sets a date those teachers who can and want to will take leave or quit. You can keep blaming them for the pandemic but it’s not their fault.


And that is also true.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:44     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought this was an interesting line in the superintendents message today; does it mean he’s going to share an opening date then?

I will present the 2020-21 School Year Monitoring Report with the latest updates.


I don't think he will have dates at this week's meeting, probably the one in 2 weeks.


Yes! It’s enough. It’s embarrassing. Please don’t judge all 3,000 of us on 10 whack jobs. We’ve got a vaccine, we’re going back.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:41     Subject: Re:APS reopening
Teachers are NOT making these decisions. APS is making them. And if APS sets a date those teachers who can and want to will take leave or quit. You can keep blaming them for the pandemic but it’s not their fault.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:41     Subject: APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:Kids are not vax and neither are their families- so they must still mask and social distance. You cannot fit full classes in the classrooms with those restrictions. We will be lucky if they go back “fully” in the fall. Kids still won’t be vax by then. Are you ok sending your kid full time unmasked?


Some experts are saying that kids might not need to be vaccinated at all, once adults are vaccinated and the numbers go down.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:36     Subject: Re:APS reopening
Anonymous wrote:
To answer another of your questions, some APS community members, including teachers, are pushing to have EVERYONE vaccinated before opening schools. Not just teachers, but kids and family members too. They won’t get much traction with that and are eroding their credibility by pushing for it.


I'm fine with the family members (that live with a teacher) getting it, but what authority to they have to require kids to get it in order to return to work, if they and their own families are vaccinated? In that instance, isn' t it the choice of parents whether to put kids at risk, since it is not harming the teachers in any way?


They want to sink an entire generation?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2021 17:34     Subject: APS reopening
Teachers are moving the goalposts and it pisses me off. Not til we are vaccinated! Not til my household is vaccinated! Not til the kids are vaccinated!

My kids will not go to school for an entire year. A whole year. This is insane.