Anonymous wrote:DC women expect so much but are notoriously known for not being attractive. DC has the least attractive women.

Truly spoken like someone who has been to NYC and LA and that’s it, never Omaha or Cleveland or Spokane. DC has that reputation basically only up against NYC. DC women tend to skip makeup and have sad hairstyles but still be fit and maintain their skin. Remember that the average American woman is a size 14.

Yes poor to average income men will struggle to attract women. Rich/wealthy men will have no problem attracting women. Money matters.

I love these posts. Only 2% of the general population earns more than 275,000. But on DCUM every single DH makes twice that.

When I met DH 17 years ago he was making around 55k at an interesting job. He briefly went down to half that and I still married him. I was 25, very well educated, and (I can say it now, at 43 and post-two-kids) extremely attractive. It was all about love, baby!

my experience is a bit dated; I found it challenging to date in the mid-late 90's while just starting out. I was making about 60K (probably equivalent to 100K today), but, with the expectation I would pick up the bill, it got expensive. Some women expected me to drop $100+ on a date.

Of the 5K/month, 2 k was payroll deductions, 1.4K was rent, and 600 was loans, leaving me with about 1K for food and fun.

The way I handled it was to not spend that much. First dates were at coffee shops, and I did a lot of my own cooking (I am a decent cook).

Also, if the woman wanted to go to the equivalent of Pineapple and Pearls, we would not date-- she was too rich for my blood.

As I was in my early 30's, and mostly dating similar ages, and dating within my "box", it was not a problem

DC women expect so much but are notoriously known for not being attractive. DC has the least attractive women.

Anonymous wrote:Age 25 and making $80k, no problem. Age 45? Problem.

You know the vast majority of Americans make similar salaries or a little less than that? DC women have too high of standards when they have average looks.

Anonymous wrote:"Average income" to DCUM means something like 300K.

Yes, a guy with low income is not getting a date around here.

Oh sure he is. The ladies here talk big but they have have itches that need scratching.

All things being equal I think having more money would make it easier but depending on your age, where you meet, cost of living, and attractiveness, I think a guy can do okay. Honestly if you meet in high school, in college, right out of college, grad school or at work you may not be making a lot but at that age you can build together. I know a ton of couples that met mid-twenties (or younger) back in the days where no one had much and your friends would help you move for pizza and beer. Many of the guys had average or below average incomes. Now in my 40’s, only knowing about someone based on an online profile and having more financial responsibility and raising two kids, if I were dating to marry, income (at least in the sense of having a similar lifestyle) would play a role.

Are you tall and exceptionally good looking? You will do fine.

No? Be prepared for lots of rejection.

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I think everyone- male or female- is a package deal and is the sum of their parts. A physically unattractive male or female with a successful, high earning career and interesting personality can be compelling as can a low earning, highly attractive person. Some people call it superficial because of the money, but in actuality the underlying attractive quality is being able to successfully achieve in a demanding career, the educational requirements those careers usually imply, and ambition.

Dating for a guy with an average income is only an “issue” if they’re otherwise average but expect an above average partner. it shouldn’t be an issue, for males or females, if they expect to meet a similarly average looking, average earning partner.

Yup, there's a shoe for every foot.

Honestly, I think everyone- male or female- is a package deal and is the sum of their parts. A physically unattractive male or female with a successful, high earning career and interesting personality can be compelling as can a low earning, highly attractive person. Some people call it superficial because of the money, but in actuality the underlying attractive quality is being able to successfully achieve in a demanding career, the educational requirements those careers usually imply, and ambition.

Dating for a guy with an average income is only an “issue” if they’re otherwise average but expect an above average partner. it shouldn’t be an issue, for males or females, if they expect to meet a similarly average looking, average earning partner.

In regular places, no.
In higher cost areas, yes.

One of my dh's single fed co-workers moved to the outer suburbs in order to date more. It worked.

80k is "rich" to a woman making 25k. If he's good looking and treats her well, then that makes him a huge catch.

If you’re lower income just date younger women (early -mid 20’s). Its usually less of an issue for them (no family/house to support,etc).