Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 17:38     Subject: Re:secular Christmas is an oxymoron
You again? Not getting enough attention on the comments of the other thread, so started a new one?

LOL. Seriously, get a life.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 17:15     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:Ehhh. People are free to do what they want with regards to religion. If I like certain traditions and objects associated with a faith, I can do what I want for reasons that are mine alone. My method of celebrating or not celebrating is not an issue except for those looking to be offended or claiming exclusive ownership over what they claim is their religion, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever... You do you and afford the other person the same courtesy. Or don’t, there’s nothing you can do about it anyway.


I like all the candles and strings of lights. Perfect for the dark days around the winter solstice.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 16:18     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:It's Yule. No Christ anywhere in Yule. Want a tree? Go decorate a palm tree.


Norwegian spruces were a popular thing in Judea when Christ was born?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 16:16     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
It's Yule. No Christ anywhere in Yule. Want a tree? Go decorate a palm tree.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 16:15     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:Ehhh. People are free to do what they want with regards to religion. If I like certain traditions and objects associated with a faith, I can do what I want for reasons that are mine alone. My method of celebrating or not celebrating is not an issue except for those looking to be offended or claiming exclusive ownership over what they claim is their religion, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever... You do you and afford the other person the same courtesy. Or don’t, there’s nothing you can do about it anyway.


Yes, there is! You can throw your weight around on public message boards. Jesus loves that.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 15:53     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:We can talk about Jesus and his teachings without believing he’s The son of god or that god exists. That’s what we do. All the things we do to celebrate Christmas aside from going to mass were appropriated from pagan rituals anyway. Y’all need to give that stuff back.


Christians are not claiming to have created them. It’s not appropriation.

As for “giving them back”, the pagans haven’t stopped using them. Also, a lot of Catholic and mainstream Protestant prayers and traditions are based in Judaism. There’s room for syncretism.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 15:22     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Ehhh. People are free to do what they want with regards to religion. If I like certain traditions and objects associated with a faith, I can do what I want for reasons that are mine alone. My method of celebrating or not celebrating is not an issue except for those looking to be offended or claiming exclusive ownership over what they claim is their religion, whether Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever... You do you and afford the other person the same courtesy. Or don’t, there’s nothing you can do about it anyway.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 15:07     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
We can talk about Jesus and his teachings without believing he’s The son of god or that god exists. That’s what we do. All the things we do to celebrate Christmas aside from going to mass were appropriated from pagan rituals anyway. Y’all need to give that stuff back.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 15:07     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are a Christian, why are you celebrating Christmas in late December, when that's not when Jesus was even born? Not even the same season--by at least a few months!


If you are Catholic, you celebrate when the Church holds these feast days. And, if you went to Catholic school or did RCIA as an adult, you are absolutely aware that they were moved to co opt pagan shenanigans like Samhain and Yule.

When I was a child many minor feasts were celebrated on a certain date and now they seem to have migrated to the nearest Sunday which makes me a bit sad. The result is that my family celebrates religious Epiphany by going to Mass on the designated Sunday and cultural Epiphany on 1/6 (Three Kings bring the kids gift).


Still an oxymoron. But that's fine, and then don't complain about people celebrating secular Christmas in late December, since they're not the ones contradicting their religious history/faith. Because this time of year, Jesus is actually not the reason for the season at all.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 15:05     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:If you are a Christian, why are you celebrating Christmas in late December, when that's not when Jesus was even born? Not even the same season--by at least a few months!


If you are Catholic, you celebrate when the Church holds these feast days. And, if you went to Catholic school or did RCIA as an adult, you are absolutely aware that they were moved to co opt pagan shenanigans like Samhain and Yule.

When I was a child many minor feasts were celebrated on a certain date and now they seem to have migrated to the nearest Sunday which makes me a bit sad. The result is that my family celebrates religious Epiphany by going to Mass on the designated Sunday and cultural Epiphany on 1/6 (Three Kings bring the kids gift).
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 14:58     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
If you are a Christian, why are you celebrating Christmas in late December, when that's not when Jesus was even born? Not even the same season--by at least a few months!
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 14:56     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:If you are not a Christian you are celebrating commercial Christmas not secular Christmas.


Thanks for the observation. (Files away with other useless observations.)
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 14:15     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Same with Easter, but we still hunt eggs and don't talk about Jesus! I'll wait while you lecture me.

While we're at it, let's dissect St Patrick's Day. Or Halloween. Do you celebrate those OP? They each have religious origins that culturally are ignored. Christmas is no different really.



Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 14:14     Subject: secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Anonymous wrote:If you are not a Christian you are celebrating commercial Christmas not secular Christmas.


Secular just means non-religious and there are many Christmas traditions that are non-religious, but do not require shopping/spending money.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2020 14:13     Subject: Re:secular Christmas is an oxymoron
Guess what? You don't get to decide what I call it or how I celebrate it.