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In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

The question is for whom. My daughter is more technical and fast (very) than aggressive (moderate), and is a much better fustal player than she was a travel soccer player.

Do you want to be a soccer player, indoor soccer player or futsal player?

I’m not the PP but is playing indoors with walls vs futsal improve outdoor soccer more? I think I might answer my own questions by saying that it depends what a player needs to improve more, aggressiveness or foot skills.

I think the first choice is to play soccer if that is what your trying to improve. If that is not an option, either futsal or indoor soccer will give you something to keep your kid moving. Neither futsal nor indoor soccer are a good substitute for the outdoor game, soccer is played in the cold and in the heat. Learning how to play in all types of weather will do a lot for development (both skills and character).

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Anonymous wrote:

In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

The question is for whom. My daughter is more technical and fast (very) than aggressive (moderate), and is a much better fustal player than she was a travel soccer player.

Do you want to be a soccer player, indoor soccer player or futsal player?

I’m not the PP but is playing indoors with walls vs futsal improve outdoor soccer more? I think I might answer my own questions by saying that it depends what a player needs to improve more, aggressiveness or foot skills.

They're both fine. My kid has played a lot of both. Futsal is a lot more disciplined. The wall in indoor soccer allows players to pass it to themselves and not worry nearly as much about the touch on their passes. People continue talking about footskills in futsal (and BTW, there needs to be plenty of aggressive play in futsal as well). The footskill development can occur at home. Futsal (and indoor soccer) can improve it by forcing the player (if she is able) to handle the ball in tight space. But by far the biggest benefit of playing small-sided in any context (futsal, indoor soccer or outdoor soccer) is understanding the need to transition rapidly offensively and defensively off the ball. This has nothing to do with footskills, or even aggression. It is more about anticipation and rapid movement into the right position on offense or defense. It is exactly the skill that one learns is high-level basketball, but the difference is that scoring is at a much greater premium in any form of small-sided game than in basketball, meaning that players cannot really take any transition or play off.

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Anonymous wrote:

In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

The question is for whom. My daughter is more technical and fast (very) than aggressive (moderate), and is a much better fustal player than she was a travel soccer player.

Do you want to be a soccer player, indoor soccer player or futsal player?

I’m not the PP but is playing indoors with walls vs futsal improve outdoor soccer more? I think I might answer my own questions by saying that it depends what a player needs to improve more, aggressiveness or foot skills.

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Anonymous wrote:https://thestjames.sportngin.com/schedule/day/league_instance/107348?subseason=651666

I heard that the St. James is charging parents $5 a person to watch the games. Is that true? Thanks

That's not true from my experience, as a parent.

St James told us this at the coaches call a week ago. $5/spectator, capped at 25/court. Different color wristbands for hour, gym would be vacated by everyone for clean between games and a new set of spectators allowed in the building.

5$ a spectator? They must be hurting for cash

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Of course, most kids aren't learning butterfly patterns and different rotations, but why should they? They play 5v5 indoor soccer on a court with a limited bounce ball. There are still alot of benefits to this. The coaches still need to be paid, the courts need to be rented, futsal balls need to be bought, and futsal leagues have fees, so, yes, it costs money. Now if your club over charges you for this, that's your fault.

FWIW, my son played on an Alexandria red futsal ID team, and didn't work on most of of this stuff. But, we still beat most of the teams we played, including teams that played exclusively futsal.

Alexandria has had a lot of success by not complicating futsal and keeping it simple. They keep the rosters small, have high competition to get on teams, and train a lot together without worrying about an over-complicated system.

Anonymous wrote:

In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

The question is for whom. My daughter is more technical and fast (very) than aggressive (moderate), and is a much better fustal player than she was a travel soccer player.

Do you want to be a soccer player, indoor soccer player or futsal player?

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:https://thestjames.sportngin.com/schedule/day/league_instance/107348?subseason=651666

I heard that the St. James is charging parents $5 a person to watch the games. Is that true? Thanks

That's not true from my experience, as a parent.

St James told us this at the coaches call a week ago. $5/spectator, capped at 25/court. Different color wristbands for hour, gym would be vacated by everyone for clean between games and a new set of spectators allowed in the building.

Of course, most kids aren't learning butterfly patterns and different rotations, but why should they? They play 5v5 indoor soccer on a court with a limited bounce ball. There are still alot of benefits to this. The coaches still need to be paid, the courts need to be rented, futsal balls need to be bought, and futsal leagues have fees, so, yes, it costs money. Now if your club over charges you for this, that's your fault.

FWIW, my son played on an Alexandria red futsal ID team, and didn't work on most of of this stuff. But, we still beat most of the teams we played, including teams that played exclusively futsal.

In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

The question is for whom. My daughter is more technical and fast (very) than aggressive (moderate), and is a much better fustal player than she was a travel soccer player.

Snowflake, PP is demonstrating frustration at parents who just follow the crowd like sheep. Futsal is a serious sport and PP is only stating that must clubs don't have a serious futsal development program but only use the name to grab your dollars.

Why do you care? My son is serious about futsal and plays with a club that only does futsal, but other people can make a different choice depending on their own kids' interests and spend their money as they wish. I would think the person getting offended by that is the snowflake, but you are free to your own view.

Ummm...newsflash: my kids LOVE Futsal. That’s why we sign them up. They like it even better than outdoor—more touches, faster and more goals. It’s quick and game can change quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Snowflake, PP is demonstrating frustration at parents who just follow the crowd like sheep. Futsal is a serious sport and PP is only stating that must clubs don't have a serious futsal development program but only use the name to grab your dollars.

What's a money grab? And why should most clubs have a serious futsal development program? Kids sign up to play outdoor soccer. Futsal hasn't caught on as it's own individual sport, but most of us do see the benefits in futsal for speed of play, number of touches, number of 1v1 situations, number of 2v2 situations, technical skill development, etc. So most clubs do futsal training in the winter because it's frickin cold outside. Sure it's not truly futsal development but it is technically futsal as you play on a futsal court, with a futsal ball, and follow futsal rules. Of course, most kids aren't learning butterfly patterns and different rotations, but why should they? They play 5v5 indoor soccer on a court with a limited bounce ball. There are still alot of benefits to this. The coaches still need to be paid, the courts need to be rented, futsal balls need to be bought, and futsal leagues have fees, so, yes, it costs money. Now if your club over charges you for this, that's your fault.

I think most parents enroll their DC for futsal so that their DC can improve their foot skills, speed of play, etc. to be better soccer players and not to be futsal players. And for fun too.

In non-COVID time, is futsal better than indoor soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:https://thestjames.sportngin.com/schedule/day/league_instance/107348?subseason=651666

I heard that the St. James is charging parents $5 a person to watch the games. Is that true? Thanks

That's not true from my experience, as a parent.

Anonymous wrote:Snowflake, PP is demonstrating frustration at parents who just follow the crowd like sheep. Futsal is a serious sport and PP is only stating that must clubs don't have a serious futsal development program but only use the name to grab your dollars.

What's a money grab? And why should most clubs have a serious futsal development program? Kids sign up to play outdoor soccer. Futsal hasn't caught on as it's own individual sport, but most of us do see the benefits in futsal for speed of play, number of touches, number of 1v1 situations, number of 2v2 situations, technical skill development, etc. So most clubs do futsal training in the winter because it's frickin cold outside. Sure it's not truly futsal development but it is technically futsal as you play on a futsal court, with a futsal ball, and follow futsal rules. Of course, most kids aren't learning butterfly patterns and different rotations, but why should they? They play 5v5 indoor soccer on a court with a limited bounce ball. There are still alot of benefits to this. The coaches still need to be paid, the courts need to be rented, futsal balls need to be bought, and futsal leagues have fees, so, yes, it costs money. Now if your club over charges you for this, that's your fault.

Thank you for answering his reply to my point. I could not have said it better.
As noted in my earlier reply you can count the programs on one hand that actually teach, train and compete at futsal. if that sounds hostile sorry to offend you but its just the truth.

The other clubs simply see a new pathway to making some additional dollars by offering something they call Futsal but they dont in fact invest in the sport or program in anyway.