Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 14:37     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:It’s easier to be “self made” UHNWI when you’re already coming from a HNWI household. That would be the real analysis I want to see.

With accommodative monetary policies of the last 20 years, it’s not really that hard to grow HNW family wealth into UHNW levels. Capital markets have been great for established family companies.

Look at Evan Spiegel - leveraged his dad’s connections as a tech lawyer to grow Snap. Zuckerberg came from a HNW family and went to Phillips Andover. Bill Gates came from a prominent PNW banking family.

Show me how many middle class kids who went to these universities end up in the HNW category. That’s what will impress me.


+1

School donation, anyone?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 14:36     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:Alright, suckers! Who cares about Nobels, Rhodes, Fulbrights when you could be swimming in money (or the company of those with money, ha!) instead? Here's the real ranking of universities, measured by how many UHNW (ultra high net worth) alumni they have. UHNW is defined as individuals with a net worth over $30 million.

1. Harvard - 13,650 alumni
2. Stanford - 5,580
3. UPenn - 5,575
4. Columbia - 3,925
5. NYU - 3,380
6. MIT - 2,785
7. Cambridge - 2,760
8. Northwestern - 2,725
9. USC - 2,645
10. UChicago - 2,405
11. Yale - 2,400
12. UC Berkeley - 2,385
13. Oxford - 2,290
14. Cornell - 2,245
15. UT Austin - 2,195



Rounding out the top 20...

16. Princeton - 2,180
17. Notre Dame - 2,085
18. UMichigan - 1,970
19. INSEAD - 1,965
20. UCLA - 1,945



Harvard is clearly in a class of its own.l



Source: https://www.wealthx.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/University-Ultra-High-Net-Worth-Alumni-Rankings-2019.pdf


OP, WTH do you think these moms “pursue” these schools??
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 11:56     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
I'd be interested to see how SLACs would fare, if you looked only at undergraduate programs.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 11:45     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:Ah, the "born on third" ranking.


From most Self-Made to Least Self-Made (page 8 of the doc):


University of Chicago
University of Virginia
Harvard University
University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of Michigan
The University of Texas at Austin
Yale University
University of California, Berkeley
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania
Cornell University
New York University
Columbia University
Northwestern University
University of Miami
University of Southern California
Boston University
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 11:11     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA?


1 (1) Harvard University
2 (2) Stanford University
3 (3) University of Pennsylvania
4 (4) Columbia University
5 (5) New York University
6 (6) Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
7 (8) Northwestern University
8 (9) University of Southern California
9 (10) University of Chicago
10 (11) Yale University
11 (12) University of California, Berkeley
12 (14) Cornell University
13 (15) The University of Texas at Austin
14 (16) Princeton University
15 (17) University of Notre Dame
16 (18) University of Michigan
17 (20) University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
18 (22) University of Virginia
19 (23) Boston University
20 (24) University of Miami

Where's Duke? Where's Emory? Where's Vanderbilt?


Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 10:48     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:Ah, the "born on third" ranking.


LOL
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 10:44     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
The most important aspect of this kind of "study" is the data source. On page 15, the document said the data source is from the company own database, which looks like a circular reference.

How good is the data source? Is it extensive or just has its own bias?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 09:56     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
It’s easier to be “self made” UHNWI when you’re already coming from a HNWI household. That would be the real analysis I want to see.

With accommodative monetary policies of the last 20 years, it’s not really that hard to grow HNW family wealth into UHNW levels. Capital markets have been great for established family companies.

Look at Evan Spiegel - leveraged his dad’s connections as a tech lawyer to grow Snap. Zuckerberg came from a HNW family and went to Phillips Andover. Bill Gates came from a prominent PNW banking family.

Show me how many middle class kids who went to these universities end up in the HNW category. That’s what will impress me.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 09:20     Subject: Re:Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard has bigger and more professional schools than Yale, as well as one of the most famous business schools in the world. I daresay a pretty high percentage of the rich Harvard alums are really from HBS.

Ditto for Penn and Wharton.


+1. I also wonder what qualifies as self-made. Parental help via college expenses, 529s for grandkids, down payment assistance, etc is not self-made.



Uh BS it's not. Having college and a house down payment paid, then doing so well in business you have $30mm+ is still self-made. You didn't just make that managing family money. You did something exceptional.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 08:49     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Ah, the "born on third" ranking.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2020 02:08     Subject: Re:Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:Harvard has bigger and more professional schools than Yale, as well as one of the most famous business schools in the world. I daresay a pretty high percentage of the rich Harvard alums are really from HBS.

Ditto for Penn and Wharton.


+1. I also wonder what qualifies as self-made. Parental help via college expenses, 529s for grandkids, down payment assistance, etc is not self-made.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 22:46     Subject: Re:Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Harvard has bigger and more professional schools than Yale, as well as one of the most famous business schools in the world. I daresay a pretty high percentage of the rich Harvard alums are really from HBS.

Ditto for Penn and Wharton.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 22:45     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:I would like to now see the stats broken up by race and gender.

I suspect that White people will top the list. This is not meritocracy. We see how stupid Trump and his Ivy-League cronies are.

It is just the benefit of being racially exploitative.


Plenty of very wealthy international students of color at the top schools. And of course, many wealthy students of Asian and South Asian heritages. Then we do have the Obama girls.

But I guess they don't count as different races.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 22:24     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Percentages, people.


Percentages are definitely important, but the only real outliers I see here in terms of size are NYU, USC, Berkeley, UT Austin, and Michigan, which are significantly larger schools than the rest.

INSEAD in France is absolutely tiny and much newer compared to the rest of the schools on this list, and still ranks in the top 20 which is very, very impressive.


A better measure would be wealth created by students would be a more impressive star. Recruiting the children of rich people is meaningless


The counterpoint of that is, well, if you want your child to be mingling with the children of rich people. Depending on your mindset, could be a pro.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2020 21:40     Subject: Top 15 Universities Ranked by Wealthy Alumni
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Percentages, people.


Percentages are definitely important, but the only real outliers I see here in terms of size are NYU, USC, Berkeley, UT Austin, and Michigan, which are significantly larger schools than the rest.

INSEAD in France is absolutely tiny and much newer compared to the rest of the schools on this list, and still ranks in the top 20 which is very, very impressive.


A better measure would be wealth created by students would be a more impressive star. Recruiting the children of rich people is meaningless


The source actually carves out the percentages of each of the top 20 US schools based on 3 categories: self-made, inheritance + self-made, and inheritance.

Other than the two outliers of USC and Boston University, the UHNWIs at the top 20 schools are 70%+ self-made, which is respectable.

It's a few pages down:
https://www.wealthx.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/University-Ultra-High-Net-Worth-Alumni-Rankings-2019.pdf