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Anonymous wrote:Is there going to be IOWA test for 6th grader this year?

I am a 6th Grade AAP teacher and we have been discussing it lately. We have a tentative window (Jan 11-20), which could easily be moved. I just learned that the test HAS to be done in person. If the COVID numbers are not good, it could be moved to February/March - or canceled altogether.

Any updates on this? TIA

Our school scheduled the IAAT for January 11, confirm or opt out by January 4. Test will be in the cafeteria. Bring 2 pencils. Do not bring laptop. Social distancing and masks required. Parents not allowed in the building. Complete the health screening questionnaire day of. Temperatures will be taken before they go into the building.

From the email:
"All students who are enrolled in the Advanced Mathematics Grade 6 course are eligible for screening for placement in Algebra I Honors in grade 7." "To qualify for this placement, students must first demonstrate readiness for formal abstract thinking as evidenced by a score at the 91st percentile or above on the Iowa Algebra Aptitude Test (IAAT). In addition to readiness for abstract thinking, students must show mastery of middle school mathematics as evidenced by a score of 500 or above on the Virginia Standards of Learning (SOL) Grade 7 mathematics test at the end of grade 6."

"Algebra 1 Honors is a rigorous course that carries high school credit and is calculated into the student's grade point average. A desire to take Algebra 1 Honors in grade 7 implies a desire to take five additional years of mathematics through high school, including college-level courses. An advanced level alternative to Algebra 1 Honors in grade 7 is Mathematics 7 Honors. It is not necessary for students to take the IAAT in order to enroll in Mathematics 7 Honors."

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You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I disagree. DC is in Algebra 1 and our middle school does not grade on the curve and doesn't modify the curriculum - the teacher doesn't have the time and interest. DC just had an inequality test and the average in the class was C and she didn't change the syllabus, just gives them extra practice work during class. This is not specific to math; he has a very demanding history teacher and 1/3 class is failing and the teacher keeps on goingat the same pace.

If all of the teachers approached advanced classes like your child's teacher, none of this would be a problem. Teachers shouldn't slow down advanced classes for the kids who can't handle the pace. The obvious answer is to have the kid drop down to M7H or regular classes if they can't handle the pace of honors. Why do so many teachers slow down the classes for the kids who don't belong at the expense of the kids who do? Is it a directive from higher up? Do the teachers just feel sorry for the struggling kid? Are the rescheduling logistics impossible for switching kids to a new class midyear?

This. The fact that your one teacher doesn’t slow down the pace doesn’t change the fact that having kids admitted into algebra 1 honors in 7th before they are ready typically hurts all other students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there going to be IOWA test for 6th grader this year?

I am a 6th Grade AAP teacher and we have been discussing it lately. We have a tentative window (Jan 11-20), which could easily be moved. I just learned that the test HAS to be done in person. If the COVID numbers are not good, it could be moved to February/March - or canceled altogether.

Any updates on this? TIA

I'm the PP, there should be more information coming home this week regarding the test.

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Anonymous wrote:

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I disagree. DC is in Algebra 1 and our middle school does not grade on the curve and doesn't modify the curriculum - the teacher doesn't have the time and interest. DC just had an inequality test and the average in the class was C and she didn't change the syllabus, just gives them extra practice work during class. This is not specific to math; he has a very demanding history teacher and 1/3 class is failing and the teacher keeps on goingat the same pace.

If all of the teachers approached advanced classes like your child's teacher, none of this would be a problem. Teachers shouldn't slow down advanced classes for the kids who can't handle the pace. The obvious answer is to have the kid drop down to M7H or regular classes if they can't handle the pace of honors. Why do so many teachers slow down the classes for the kids who don't belong at the expense of the kids who do? Is it a directive from higher up? Do the teachers just feel sorry for the struggling kid? Are the rescheduling logistics impossible for switching kids to a new class midyear?

^^ Wrong.

If a kid is home and mommy helps him, it definitely can negatively impact others.

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Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

What do you mean cheating? Do you mean prepping for the Iowa or having someone help you on the Iowa exam?

She's talking about feeling jealous. And 'marginalized'. ...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there going to be IOWA test for 6th grader this year?

I am a 6th Grade AAP teacher and we have been discussing it lately. We have a tentative window (Jan 11-20), which could easily be moved. I just learned that the test HAS to be done in person. If the COVID numbers are not good, it could be moved to February/March - or canceled altogether.

Any updates on this? TIA

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

What do you mean cheating? Do you mean prepping for the Iowa or having someone help you on the Iowa exam?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I agree. It is a really small subset of population taking it. Even if every kid sat in cafe spread out, it is doable.

It’s computer based test. How to spread out? Is the school asked to move the computers to cafe? My 11th grade kid took psat (paper test) in person. He said there was no social distancing at all during 3+ hour test. Some schools care and some schools don’t.

The IOWA is paper/pencil and only 6th grade Adv Math takes it. At my school that is 20 kids. It would be easy to spread out in cafe.

They could do it in the gym.

They could have some in the cafeteria and some in the gym.

You could have some kids take it at 9 and some kids take it at 10.

Even at a center school where there are maybe 75 kids who would take it, this is doable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I agree. It is a really small subset of population taking it. Even if every kid sat in cafe spread out, it is doable.

It’s computer based test. How to spread out? Is the school asked to move the computers to cafe? My 11th grade kid took psat (paper test) in person. He said there was no social distancing at all during 3+ hour test. Some schools care and some schools don’t.

The IOWA is paper/pencil and only 6th grade Adv Math takes it. At my school that is 20 kids. It would be easy to spread out in cafe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I agree. It is a really small subset of population taking it. Even if every kid sat in cafe spread out, it is doable.

It’s computer based test. How to spread out? Is the school asked to move the computers to cafe? My 11th grade kid took psat (paper test) in person. He said there was no social distancing at all during 3+ hour test. Some schools care and some schools don’t.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I disagree. DC is in Algebra 1 and our middle school does not grade on the curve and doesn't modify the curriculum - the teacher doesn't have the time and interest. DC just had an inequality test and the average in the class was C and she didn't change the syllabus, just gives them extra practice work during class. This is not specific to math; he has a very demanding history teacher and 1/3 class is failing and the teacher keeps on goingat the same pace.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

I agree. It is a really small subset of population taking it. Even if every kid sat in cafe spread out, it is doable.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.

You don’t get it. Teachers do slow the class down for those who drag the pace down. If the schools can do the sats at school in a successful way, not sure how the Iowa couldn’t be done safely.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The math inventory has an algebra readiness score and can be given online. It could be used together with SOLs, etc to make a decision.

Let the cheating commence

so what? the only consequence is the kid would fail math in middle school. it won't bother anyone else. I don't feel safe sending my kid to school just for a test.

Seriously? I'm sure you were squawking about needing to get your kid into AAP a few years ago because too much time was spend teaching to the bottom or middle. If you can't see how cheating on this test and a kid being placed in Algebra 1 honors as a 7th grader hurts the individual, the class, and the teacher, then I don't know what to tell you. If you don't feel safe sending your kid to school for just a test, don't. Problem solved.

Why does it hurt the class and the teacher? Teachers won't change the curriculum to accommodate the kids who are left behind. at least public school teachers don't really care. and the other students in the class could benefit from it as they may get curves on tests. How can I justify sending my kid to school for a test that can be done online when the national daily case number is 220K and close to 3000 deaths a day?? Maybe a better solution would be to get rid of this test and use teacher recommendations. Too many tests in fcps.