Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:59
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:To be honest, the “problematic” Disney princesses, if you want to call them that, are the early ones.
I understand the issues with Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty (Aurora), and Ariel.
After that, you have princesses who actually are pretty cool. Belle and Jasmine did their own thing. Pocahantas has problems, but Milan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, and Moana are great. So is Elsa.
So let’s be clear about what we actually mean when we talk about horrible Disney.
Milan = Mulan, obviously.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:56
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. I'm a liberal feminist and I can't wait for my daughter to get into princesses and pink and nail polish and dresses. Or football or trucks or tools! Because I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY and I don't have some strict predetermined idea of what SHOULD make her happy.
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Oh yeah clearly the Open Minded Mom has logged on lol.
She’s right. It’s ridiculous.
No it’s not. A lot has changed since we were kids, and the Princesses are much better now. But for a long time they were terrible role models who only looked pretty, encountered peril to be rescued by men, and got married. Elsa has come a long way, baby.
And honestly, if your kid is going to be screwed up by a couple of the early princesses, then you have bigger problems.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:56
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
To be honest, the “problematic” Disney princesses, if you want to call them that, are the early ones.
I understand the issues with Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty (Aurora), and Ariel.
After that, you have princesses who actually are pretty cool. Belle and Jasmine did their own thing. Pocahantas has problems, but Milan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, and Moana are great. So is Elsa.
So let’s be clear about what we actually mean when we talk about horrible Disney.
I understand the issues with Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty (Aurora), and Ariel.
After that, you have princesses who actually are pretty cool. Belle and Jasmine did their own thing. Pocahantas has problems, but Milan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida, and Moana are great. So is Elsa.
So let’s be clear about what we actually mean when we talk about horrible Disney.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:52
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. I'm a liberal feminist and I can't wait for my daughter to get into princesses and pink and nail polish and dresses. Or football or trucks or tools! Because I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY and I don't have some strict predetermined idea of what SHOULD make her happy.
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Oh yeah clearly the Open Minded Mom has logged on lol.
She’s right. It’s ridiculous.
No it’s not. A lot has changed since we were kids, and the Princesses are much better now. But for a long time they were terrible role models who only looked pretty, encountered peril to be rescued by men, and got married. Elsa has come a long way, baby.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:51
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:Let her be normal. Unless you're willing to totally get rid of visual media, you're stuck with our culture
And ... ?
There are problems with any/every culture. I could think of much worse than Jasmine or Belle.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:50
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Let her be normal. Unless you're willing to totally get rid of visual media, you're stuck with our culture
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:34
Subject: Re:Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:They're not so bad, just be deliberate about how you discuss them and what you praise about them/your DD.
My guess is OP knows nothing about Disney and is just deciding it’s all “junk” from some vague preconceived notion.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:34
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. I'm a liberal feminist and I can't wait for my daughter to get into princesses and pink and nail polish and dresses. Or football or trucks or tools! Because I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY and I don't have some strict predetermined idea of what SHOULD make her happy.
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Oh yeah clearly the Open Minded Mom has logged on lol.
She’s right. It’s ridiculous.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:32
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. I'm a liberal feminist and I can't wait for my daughter to get into princesses and pink and nail polish and dresses. Or football or trucks or tools! Because I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY and I don't have some strict predetermined idea of what SHOULD make her happy.
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Oh yeah clearly the Open Minded Mom has logged on lol.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:31
Subject: Re:Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
They're not so bad, just be deliberate about how you discuss them and what you praise about them/your DD.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:31
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:OP, it’s a phase that passes quickly in the scheme of things, just like Paw Patrol and Pokémon and all the other crap kids get interested in. You don’t have to embrace it, but your daughter is an individual who’s allowed to like what she likes, whether you do or not. Not worth overthinking.
THIS. ITS. JUST. A. PHASE. Don’t overthink this. There’s nothing bad about it. It’s adults who have issues with Disney and princesses for the most part. Just let it play out. It will not last forever. Also, way to send a message to your kid that what they like and what they want doesn’t matter. that type of message stays with them for the rest of their life no matter what the topic is.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:25
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Give me a break. I'm a liberal feminist and I can't wait for my daughter to get into princesses and pink and nail polish and dresses. Or football or trucks or tools! Because I WANT HER TO BE HAPPY and I don't have some strict predetermined idea of what SHOULD make her happy.
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Also- it's sad to me that you associate traditionally feminine things with "bad". Maybe ask yourself why that is. Why can't little girls be into princesses? Is it because you think that feminine interests are somehow trivial or less important than masculine ones?
Anonymous
11/29/2020 09:03
Subject: Re:Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
Anonymous wrote:You may try but you probably won’t succeed unless you want to cut her off from the rest of society. My friend just gave in snd let her daughter watch frozen because her daughter was getting left out of her pod who were obsessed. The later princesses are better when it comes to female power and agency.
That applies to really any of them after about the little mermaid.
Hell, the entire point of Aladdin is that Jasmine didn’t want to be a princess.
But you know what? My daughter loved Ariel when we went to Disney world. It’s really not a big deal. She also likes a ton of other things. If liking Ariel is what will screw her up, then we’ve failed as parents.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 08:56
Subject: Re:Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
You may try but you probably won’t succeed unless you want to cut her off from the rest of society. My friend just gave in snd let her daughter watch frozen because her daughter was getting left out of her pod who were obsessed. The later princesses are better when it comes to female power and agency.
Anonymous
11/29/2020 08:54
Subject: Any way to delay or avoid the Disney princess obsession?
OP barely knows anything about Disney, clearly.
Mulan is awesome. So is Elsa, to be frank.
Hell, there are terrific lessons to be learned from Belle and Jasmine, both of whom stood up for what they wanted, even though it was different from the way they grew up.
Disney is also all about many, many other characters besides the princesses.
Mulan is awesome. So is Elsa, to be frank.
Hell, there are terrific lessons to be learned from Belle and Jasmine, both of whom stood up for what they wanted, even though it was different from the way they grew up.
Disney is also all about many, many other characters besides the princesses.